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Pret sandwiches are airport food, it's incoherent to suggest they're comparable to the sandwich you can get in from bodega deli counter in New York.
Dude those bodega deli sandwiches in NYC are mostly shit. Cheap bagel, cheap bread, cheap meat. The only good thing is the "value for money" since you get basically an inch of meat, but the meat is the cheapest bottom of the shelf quality meat you can buy. Trust me, I spent years getting those bodega sandwiches in New York and sure, when you're drunk they seem good, but it's not quality fare by any stretch of the ima…
The Rise and Fall of Pret a Manger
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Toast racks are not to cool toast, they're to stop it from going soggy. If you stack toast, the moisture from the toast below in the stack makes most of the stack soggy. Racking it lets the steam escape. You still eat the toast warm, just not wet. If you find yourself without a toast rack, you can lean them against each other as if you're starting to make a house of cards to keep them crisp.
Yeah and they sell bagged loaves of toast. Not warm then.
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The only acceptable sandwich lunch is a burger, IMO. These days, even working from home, once a week I ride my motorbike to Netil market to get a burger from the Lucky Chip stall. I don't understand how people can tolerate buying pre-prepared sandwiches from shops when street markets are an option, fresh hot tasty food cooked right in front of you.
Hot food is invariably more expensive than cold.
I'm not so sure on the value front. There's a lot of meat on a typical £5-7 hot meal. You can't generally pay that much for a sandwich, and when you buy a cheaper one, it's miserly.
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The only acceptable sandwich lunch is a burger, IMO. These days, even working from home, once a week I ride my motorbike to Netil market to get a burger from the Lucky Chip stall. I don't understand how people can tolerate buying pre-prepared sandwiches from shops when street markets are an option, fresh hot tasty food cooked right in front of you.
It's like anything else: convenience, quickness, consistency, perception of cleanliness, habits of others around you, and so on. If it's a group decision - and often enough it is - a place like Pret becomes the acceptable least common denominator. No one might love it, but more importantly no one probably hates it.
I'm being facetious, but only just... I work in fintech, and I end up associating with a bunch of bankers, and I give those who still patronize Pret a bit of a hard time.
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1) matter of taste I would say; I find it quite horrible. Miles removed from something like Le Pain Quotidien, but yeah matter of taste. When working for a client in London I would rather skip lunch vs eat the plastic Pret serves. Or, you know, actually go to the pub and have a pint.
> matter of taste I would say; I find it quite horrible. Miles removed from something like Le Pain Quotidien, but yeah matter of taste. When working for a client in London I would rather skip lunch vs eat the plastic Pret serves. It's just bread, salad, vegetables, meat, butter, prepared conventionally. You're talking about it like it's some kind of synthetic replacement? It's just normal fresh ingredients. I'm not s…
Even my local supermarket bakes baguettes all day long instead of 'driving them in' in the morning and being 'maximally 1 day old' according to Pret (which is contested all over the web but let's say 1 day old max is true); 10+ hours is far too old for bread with toppings wrapped in plastic), IMHO. I understand this should be much cheaper to run, but, for instance, my supermarket is cheaper still and nicer, so the cheap (looking, feeling, tasting) factor of premaking everything does not reflect in the prices.
Which is, again, the matter of taste; some people like those soggy things. Maybe you do too or you have a different experience because you went to a US one or one that has different facilities (maybe in other countries they are better; I cannot believe French or Belgian people would eat this quality food while surrounded by freshness)? I went more than once to different ones and it was all equally bad. Especially when you are in London, there are far more superior places around every corner (even at the airport; Jamie's / Wagamama are next door, why would you ever...). I just rather skip a meal than eat a bad one, which is fine I think.
Even most of the images make me cringe [0]. And most of these images are pro images and promotion images; the soggy gunk in my hands didn't look this 'nice'. This for instance [1] would be a reason to go; however, they pulled it because this pic is not real; the real thing was... not good, hence they pulled it (ofcourse the bread is bad if you trying to emulate a french feel but then prepack it). While the Le Pain version [2] is always spot on; nice baguettes, consistent quality and not premade.
Disclaimer: I can only speak for the London Prets as I worked close to one (at a bank) there and went a few times with my colleagues until deciding it was too horrible to actually eat. And only went to the HK Le Pain; I didn't know they had them in London, but seems they do (at least before Covid). If you only care about how quick it is, then, yes, it's quick; I don't however; I care about the taste and quality.
And like I said; it's taste, can't really agree/disagree (or justify as you say), just chat about it; you have a different taste than I have; that's fine; it's not worse or better or whatever; it's probably more convenient (I am very picky about what I eat; it has to be good always, which is why I cook/make most of what I eat myself for the past 20 years, including baking bread (not bread machine; by hand)) to be you, but I seek convenience/saving time in other things.
[0] https://www.google.com/search?q=pret+manger+sandwich&tbm=isc... [1] https://london.eater.com/2019/10/25/20931811/pret-manger-jam... [2] https://www.openrice.com/en/hongkong/p-le-pain-quotidien-p54...
> It's just bread, salad, vegetables, meat, butter, prepared conventionally.
Some reading materials: https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/2142241/uk-ad... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/12/pret-a...
Nothing conventional about it unless you mean mass manufacturing, added chemicals and storing it for a day are conventional for a fresh made sandwich with toppings. Maybe they are in some places, not here though.
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It's like anything else: convenience, quickness, consistency, perception of cleanliness, habits of others around you, and so on. If it's a group decision - and often enough it is - a place like Pret becomes the acceptable least common denominator. No one might love it, but more importantly no one probably hates it.
I hate it, and I hate what it stands for. I mentally associaciate Pret with bankers, and I haven't forgetten about 2008. I'm being facetious, but only just... I work in fintech, and I end up associating with a bunch of bankers, and I give those who still patronize Pret a bit of a hard time.
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> matter of taste I would say; I find it quite horrible. Miles removed from something like Le Pain Quotidien, but yeah matter of taste. When working for a client in London I would rather skip lunch vs eat the plastic Pret serves. It's just bread, salad, vegetables, meat, butter, prepared conventionally. You're talking about it like it's some kind of synthetic replacement? It's just normal fresh ingredients. I'm not s…
I'm talking about that it all taste horrible and fake to me. I know they say it's handmade and fresh but all I had (in center of London and on Gatwick airport) tasted tired and artificial and it being wrapped in tons of plastic does not help. This compared to other places (around the corner usually), where it's freshly prepared (so the baguette or sandwich cut and your toppings added, not premade) in front of you and…
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I'm talking about that it all taste horrible and fake to me. I know they say it's handmade and fresh but all I had (in center of London and on Gatwick airport) tasted tired and artificial and it being wrapped in tons of plastic does not help. This compared to other places (around the corner usually), where it's freshly prepared (so the baguette or sandwich cut and your toppings added, not premade) in front of you and…
Do you realise all food contains added 'chemicals'? Adding a sprinkle of salt is 'adding a chemical'. It's not true that the food is literally 'plastic'.
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#190I can honestly say that, aside from "good pubs", Pret a Manger is the thing I miss most having moved from London to San Francisco. There's just nothing like it for quick, easy, good coffee-and-premade-food (or I just haven't found it - in which case, please consider this a masterful invocation of Cunningham's Law).
I think SF is more of a burrito and onigiri type of town. Some of my favorite grab and go spots are Asian grocery stores.