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Angular seems to be dying. Svelte is an interesting contender. I think it will be React's main competitor given a year or two.
Angular is massive - MASSIVE - within large orgs you will have heard of but which I cannot name for obvious reasons. The twitterati and hobbyist crowd seem to love react, but anecdotally I've yet to see it used seriously at a BigCo, but Ng+TS is everywhere.
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React can, but less ergonomically than most developers are used to.
Could you comment more on how it's done?
You can write those function calls yourself, but it would be a tremendous PITA.
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The market also isn't as volatile as people make it out to be. The top most used js frameworks (React, Angular and Vue) have been in the top spots for 5 to 7 years now. I guess the market might as well be settled. Of course there are some new comers every year, but they don't enjoy a large market share. Hell, I've not even seen VueJS used once in any serious project in the industry. React and Angular are here to stay…
WTF are you talking about... so you don't consider any of these to be serious? sentry.io, Gitlab, Grammarly, Codeship, Behance
Vue is winning in China
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The market also isn't as volatile as people make it out to be. The top most used js frameworks (React, Angular and Vue) have been in the top spots for 5 to 7 years now. I guess the market might as well be settled. Of course there are some new comers every year, but they don't enjoy a large market share. Hell, I've not even seen VueJS used once in any serious project in the industry. React and Angular are here to stay…
WTF are you talking about... so you don't consider any of these to be serious? sentry.io, Gitlab, Grammarly, Codeship, Behance
i learned vue2 3-4 years ago. should i learn vue3 or svelte instead?
It's incredibly easy to use and I've (personally) liked it a lot more than Vue(2).
Vue is the only one of the most popular 3 frameworks that can easily be used on a minimal basis to sort of "spruce up" old applications by selectively adding it here and there in the templates. Seems like they should try more marketing and community outreach toward that end. Gradual adoption is a feature / selling point not many web development frameworks can claim.
For instance, I work on an app that was originally written in Backbone / Marionette, but I was able to write generic connectors to allow us to drop in React at any point in the tree. Similarly, we can go back to Marionette / Backbone at any point in the tree. It's made gradually migration towards React possible.
Claiming React can't do the same sort of sprucing up as Vue is just a lack of imagination. Show me an old app, and I'll show you how to do it.
i learned vue2 3-4 years ago. should i learn vue3 or svelte instead?
These days I'm focused on Svelte. It's faster and lighter, but IMO the best feature is you write a fraction of the code. When I go back to old React or Vue projects I want to cry. Svelte is so much more zen.
OTOH the ecosystem is minuscule so you are on your own. The support for TS and testing is not great either. Svelte is easy to learn but it's not very popular yet. I would understand if someone argued it's a risky bet although I'm building my SaaS with it.
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Could you comment more on how it's done?
Modern React uses JSX which is then transformed at build time into function calls. You can write those function calls yourself, but it would be a tremendous PITA.
Good to see this out. I want to pick a good frontend scheme for future projects but I don't really need most of the fancy SPAs and the complexity coming with it. Invested a few weeks on Vue a few months back, then the concern about 'React has 80% market share and you can find React developer much more easily in the west" never went away. Maybe Mithril is the way out? I just need a really light-weight client-side-ajax…
I think what is not mentioned with any of the big SPA frameworks is the amount of time you invest in the churn between versions. After dealing with this in Angular for a number of years, I ended up going with stock JavaScript for my recent projects and could not be happier. Performance is much better. I have a better understanding of what goes into the product. And, I am not constantly dealing with a new version and…
if this means no more Vuex, i'm all for that. that extra abstraction layer never proved useful to me.
Out of curiosity, how do you handle data needed by tons of components at different tree depths (info about the current user for example)? I don’t always reach for Vuex, but when an app reaches a certain size it sure beats passing every bit of common data down through the entire tree, as I find you quickly hit a point where you’re passing data to components solely so it can pass it to it’s children.