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Re: Show HN: Remoty – Work like you're in the same office

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Post by mahad759 »

aronpye wrote: post #15
mahad759 wrote: post #10

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Well that's one way to look at it, maybe a lot of people who share your view as well but there most certainly are people who want to take shit in peace XD. They don't want those annoying calls from their team members when they are busy. We see it as giving back control the employee about his schedule. He tells everyone that he's not available to work rn (adding comment is optional so he can skip on the specifics of t…

I'm not against status updates, it's the tracking and clocking in and out like a 1920's factory worker inside my own home that I find objectionable. Even in an office proper, this kind of tracking is a fundamental breach of trust and causes a serious imbalance of power. I also find framing this kind of thing as somehow benefiting an employee to be so duplicitous I think it is malicious.

I feel like "tracking" has a very bad connotation here at hn. As an associate product manager working remotely I would want to know if a certain software engineer has checked in for the day so that I can ask him for an update. I personally would not want to disturb him when he's off the clock. Again, its not about not trusting employees but creating a sense of transparency and closeness in a team

Re: Show HN: Remoty – Work like you're in the same office

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Post by mahad759 »

aronpye wrote: post #17
mahad759 wrote: post #12

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Hey! Thanks for taking a look at remoty! Can you please share what's the worst thing about this tool? What makes it so incompatible?

If you don't know what's so bad about it, you shouldn't be developing software. If you know what is so objectionable about it, but are acting unawares, you most definitely should stay the fuck away from software development. Everyone has a duty to take responsibility for what they create.

Also calm down, I have not created killer AI robots that will take over humanity

Re: Show HN: Remoty – Work like you're in the same office

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Post by toomuchtodo »

mahad759 wrote: post #19
aronpye wrote: post #16

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You can do that with a plain old calendar without the tracking

So you're saying that if I have to go offline for a while during my work time I should put in my calendar?

Absolutely. See https://reclaim.ai/daily-habits/ for an example of how this is executed elegantly.

Re: Show HN: Remoty – Work like you're in the same office

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Post by mahad759 »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #25
mahad759 wrote: post #19

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So you're saying that if I have to go offline for a while during my work time I should put in my calendar?

Absolutely. See https://reclaim.ai/daily-habits/ for an example of how this is executed elegantly.

reclaim ai looks like a really great tool! I just have skimmed through the landing page, but from what I understand is you still have to switch context even after using a slack integration. Teams are split in sooo many tools these days, that switching context is sometimes that big of a overhead that people may choose to avoid it. Plus most importantly, never claimed that using remoty is the ONLY way you can communicate your schedule on the fly.

Re: Show HN: Remoty – Work like you're in the same office

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Post by toomuchtodo »

mahad759 wrote: post #27
toomuchtodo wrote: post #25

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Absolutely. See https://reclaim.ai/daily-habits/ for an example of how this is executed elegantly.

reclaim ai looks like a really great tool! I just have skimmed through the landing page, but from what I understand is you still have to switch context even after using a slack integration. Teams are split in sooo many tools these days, that switching context is sometimes that big of a overhead that people may choose to avoid it. Plus most importantly, never claimed that using remoty is the ONLY way you can communica…

Points are taken. I think you have to nail down who your audience is: colleagues or managers. How you approach the problem is going to be different for each audience, based on the expectations and workflows of those audiences. Best of luck.

Re: Show HN: Remoty – Work like you're in the same office

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Post by mahad759 »

whateveracct wrote: post #23
hfyksehuefs wrote: post #5

Not really the place ask for unbiased feedback. Most devs here want less of this sort of thing. Maybe post on reddit startups instead.

Yeah this is a product for managers who miss the warm fuzzies of seeing butts in seats.

lol! you're saying that ONLY your manager is concerned whether you're in your seat or not?

Re: Show HN: Remoty – Work like you're in the same office

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Post by emerged »

mahad759 wrote: post #12
emerged wrote: post #6

I would quit any job which made me do this while working remotely. I've been a very successful full-time remote engineer for over a decade and this is incompatible with my workflow and quality of life considerations.

Hey! Thanks for taking a look at remoty! Can you please share what's the worst thing about this tool? What makes it so incompatible?

The entire premise of the tool. There are developers who work full-time remote specifically to escape micro-managing aspects such as knowing exactly when you're sitting in your chair. Presumably you've built this for the other set of remote developers who are only working remotely because they have to, but really they want an office. This tool caters to the latter at the expense of the former.
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