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What happened to Firefox Send?

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Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

#111
post #6

This is due to people sharing malware: https://www.techradar.com/news/mozilla-suspends-firefox-send... The content can't be scanned server-side because uploaded files are encrypted

Bant they just scan them on receiver side? Like how it scans dowloaded files

Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

#112

I really don't understand it. - Content was used to spread malware/illegal content - It was not profitable How are those two things something you find out after the fact? What was the reasoning for launching the product in the first place?

If you were being cynical (and to be honest I don't think this is exclusively what happened here), you could view it purely as a short term marketing campaign.

It generated lots of positive reporting about Firefox, associating them with: launching a new product, encryption, freedom and ease of use. It also had an element of virality, in that a passionate Firefox user could use the service to send to someone who doesn't use Firefox and forcibly introduce the brand to them.

All of this helps to build brand and mindshare, which, in an ideal world, leads to more installations and more ad revenue.

There are some comments about how they should focus on their browser. As much as I'd like to say otherwise, I'd argue that activities like this have a much better chance of pulling people over from Chrome than ticking off a few bug reports, or improving the certificate workflow for extensions.

Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

#113
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We still have Magic Wormhole though and it's awesome! (at least for techies) https://magic-wormhole.readthedocs.io/en/latest/welcome.html

"We" as in "the people who knows how to use the command line". Unfortunately very few of the people I send files to knows that. There's https://webwormhole.io/ and https://file.pizza/ , but can I know what they really do behind the scenes? Native open-source software for this would be a dream come true. It's 2020 and I still wrestle with sending files between devices. And no, don't take this as a wish for creating ju…

webwormhole does everything on the client via RTC IIRC? https://github.com/saljam/webwormhole

Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

#114
post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nearly all their "side projects" look like greenfields used by the project teams to boost their CVs so they can land better jobs. Those teams know very well that those projects have no use case, but they dont care. Foundation does not care either, since it is busy with increasing own remuneration and politics. Meanwhile their core product lost around 10 percentage points of market share (from 15% marketshare to 5%):…

> Recently they shipped Firefox for android that feels like alpha version. It is even unclear why did they ship it, they could have waited. Apart from extensions requiring whitelisting, how is it worse than the old mobile FF? I didn't notice any new bugs and it fixed the issues I had with the address bar hiding being fickle.

My tabs change order.

Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

#116
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We still have Magic Wormhole though and it's awesome! (at least for techies) https://magic-wormhole.readthedocs.io/en/latest/welcome.html

"We" as in "the people who knows how to use the command line". Unfortunately very few of the people I send files to knows that. There's https://webwormhole.io/ and https://file.pizza/ , but can I know what they really do behind the scenes? Native open-source software for this would be a dream come true. It's 2020 and I still wrestle with sending files between devices. And no, don't take this as a wish for creating ju…

File.pizza is great! It uses WebTorrent[1] to seed files right in the browser. The downside to this is, you have to have your browser open the whole time you're sending the file, as it's direct peer-to-peer. Firefox Send was an "upload it, get the link, and they can download later" kind of service.

1. https://github.com/kern/filepizza#faq

Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

#117
I was under the impression Firefox Send was one of the upcoming paid service offerings. At least, that we were seeing the free service and waiting some premium features to be released later on. It will be missed, it was a really easy and intuitive solution for file sharing,

Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

#118
This was a great service for transferring 1 off files between 2 people (such as 500mb wav files for podcast episodes which is what I used it for).

As it turns out, you can get similar behavior with Dropbox. The person sending the file doesn't need a Dropbox account either. You just send them a URL and then they have permission to upload the file.

The only extra step vs Firefox Send is you as the receiver need to delete the file after you've downloaded it. Technically that's optional but in my case that's what I wanted to do.

Re: What happened to Firefox Send?

#119
post #95

I really don't understand it. - Content was used to spread malware/illegal content - It was not profitable How are those two things something you find out after the fact? What was the reasoning for launching the product in the first place?

Nearly all their "side projects" look like greenfields used by the project teams to boost their CVs so they can land better jobs. Those teams know very well that those projects have no use case, but they dont care. Foundation does not care either, since it is busy with increasing own remuneration and politics. Meanwhile their core product lost around 10 percentage points of market share (from 15% marketshare to 5%):…

If you think Firefox has stagnated you clearly aren't aware of the substantial and complex improvements that have been made to the firefox core over the last couple of years:

* Faster Quantum Engine (multi-process architecture, etc)

* Faster CSS rendering with Stylo

* GPU-based rendering with WebRender

Any Moz engineer who worked on the above will have boosted their CV's substantially. They don't need to work on tangential greenfields to do that.

Sure so extensions had to be rewritten for Quantum, but sometimes that's the price to pay for deep architectural/security improvements.

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