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Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

#21
It seems that it's stuff like this that could be the biggest driver in validating non .com domain names.

I could see a Benelux registrar organization setting up a quality .tld that was free from seizure over stupid shit.

There are still other minor routing problems that can occur, but with proxies and DNS, that is much much more of a whack-a-mole problem than high level domain name seizure.

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#22

This is a disaster. A very sad day for the internet. We are entering into pastor Niemoller territory here: first they came for the file-sharing websites, next they came for the online gambling websites, and I would guess that Bitcoin is probably next in line, and following that, Magic: the Gathering online and the MMORPGs.

I had the opportunity to see Pastor Niemoller's cell once. Out back, behind the building, they had the execution wall.

Your reference to Bitcoin is apt, as the government siezed $7M in gold, silver and platinum from a political organization who was advocating the use of generic silver and gold rounds instead of depreciating paper currency.... and just a few weeks ago succeeded in railroading the leader of that organization.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

#25
US government has been gunning for poker sites for a while (since 2006 when the UIGEA passed). Some places like Party Poker withdrew from the US market, while others flourished by skirting the rules to the best of their abilities (e.g. can't have ads for internet gambling on TV, so let's make a play money site fulltilt.net that will eventually funnel traffic to our real cash games).

I am however surprised that they're seizing domains as I figured this would remain one of those "live and let live" legislations, like the online gambling equivalent of brown-bagging your drink. I imagine this will not end well for whoever was involved in this decision.

Also, 2+2ers sup bro.

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#27
post #7

Reagan is the one who signed "asset forfeiture" into law. I remember at the time reading newspaper articles claiming this was "just going to be used to keep drugs off the streets" and how "law enforcement are outgunned and now can defend themselves against drug dealers". It was obvious to me then that this was a violation of due process. Also, it is not authorized by the constitution, and thus every act of seizure un…

> There is a federal law that makes it a felony to violate constitutional rights under color of law.

Never heard of that. Link?

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

#29
post #5

WHOA, that's really big news for the poker industry. These are all very large, very big businesses (talking billions of dollars) in the US. Can anyone confirm if their poker clients are still functioning properly?

Weren't they all banned in the US a few years ago? Illegal even for banks to process transactions to them.
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