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So what happens in the future when they have exclusivity and he throws another similar joke in there? Skip the joke or not host the whole episode? Not allow it to begin with?
As a long time listener I will go to bat for Joe's show, he is a loving, rational, open person, and he simply does not platform hateful people or not challenge unjust statements. Some media, political actors, and certain people who don't listen to his show want to spin him as a hate speech alt-righter, especially now on this election year since he platforms Bernie and Tulsi but is against Biden. Find the amount of ba…
He kind of seems like a golden retriever, eager to agree and please and genuinely non judgemental about the majority of his guests’ opinions.
It makes for great conversations, and also a great platform for shitty people.
Cancel culture at it's best. What happened to freedom of speech, freedom of opinion, freedom to choose. If Spotify were smart they wouldn't censor any of the podcasts. Instead they would put a Twitter like message warning the user... As a way to satisfy the cancel culture crowd. I don't care about Joe or his views. But I do care about people having choice and freedom
Most people are petty and simple-minded, only supporting liberal principles like individual rights and protection of diverse views from the cultural powers-that-be when 1) their side is the one that needs protecting or 2) they blindly absorb the prevailing wisdom, which happens to be liberal in some lucky eras (usually prosperous and optimistic ones).
As much as both sides of the political spectrum like to fling "you started it" back and forth, the reason we're seeing the same decline in basic liberal values across the spectrum is that liberalism-as-civic-religion is in retrenchment for complicated structural reasons, and most people aren't remotely capable of understanding what a principle is, let alone holding one.
As always, the ultimate victims of illiberal lurches in norms will be the marginalized.
Cancel culture at it's best. What happened to freedom of speech, freedom of opinion, freedom to choose. If Spotify were smart they wouldn't censor any of the podcasts. Instead they would put a Twitter like message warning the user... As a way to satisfy the cancel culture crowd. I don't care about Joe or his views. But I do care about people having choice and freedom
Spotify has the right to choose what is on their platform. Spotify employees have the right to voice their concerns if the company they work for is alienating them. But I guess that's not the kind of freedom you are interested in.
Joe Rogan is popular with the masses, very popular. This tells me his views are probably mainstream. Mainstream enough to make a lot of money out of without worrying about backlash.
Frankly I see zero difference between this and what is happening here. It is a protest against blasphemy.
If this is truly not a religious topic but a scientific one, then what is the harm in a qualified person coming on the show and presenting some facts and drawing conclusions?
Why not offer to go on the show, bring these people back on and challenge their position? Rebut all of the points and present the flaws and reasons why that conclusion is incorrect. That is part of the scientific method.
Or has western society reached a stage where the goal is to deplatform the positions that don't align with one's own, instead of debating them and prevailing through argument? Why is it that so often the first course of action is to censor and deplatform?
There seems to be far too much dogma in the discourse. Furthermore small fringe groups are claiming to speak on behalf of their entire identity group. This too is extremely bigoted. Not everyone in the same identity group believes the same things.
I’m curious what his contract with them stipulates on these matters. As for the employees, they could contact Rogan and either ask to come on the show to discuss what they find so offensive. Joe will talk to anyone, let them have their say and explain their point of view. Arguing to censor his episode history only sends the message that Spotify isn’t a platform for intellectual curiosity and free speech.
I like Rogan's podcast but he definitely won't talk to anyone - When was the last time there was someone on that didn't agree with him on the major issue or issues they were brought on the podcast to discuss? They may quibble over certain things but at the end of the day he wants to have a fun conversation and arguing with trans rights people for 2 or 3 hours isn't going to happen. Also they've already censored his h…
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Spotify has already made the decision to exclude multiple Joe Rogan episodes from their catalog, this is just a decision of where they draw their line.
This is unfortunate and unacceptable. Joe should have a free and censorship free place to discuss topics. We have lost our minds: the ability to freely and discuss literally any topic was an American staple. Now you don’t dare say something that could potentially offend someone. I could be fired if I said what I really think about some controversial issues and linked it to my identity. That’s not a world I enjoy livi…
I mean, Joe signed the contract and choosing what to exclude was more than likely discussed in negotiations, or even written into the contract. He opted to take this route.
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I like him, I'm supporting his idea of giving anyone the right to express their ideas. Therefore, I'm interested in the people that also have their concerns about his shows and Spotify's business decisions and they must be heard/read, why are you intolerant to other views and want to censor them by suggesting people to turn their heads? That sounds like canceling to me and btw I don't want to cancel anybody.
Interfering with someone else's contracts is tortuous interference. You do t have a right to that no matter who employs you.