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Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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Post by dopamean »

dkdk8283 wrote: post #64
mef79 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify has already made the decision to exclude multiple Joe Rogan episodes from their catalog, this is just a decision of where they draw their line.

This is unfortunate and unacceptable. Joe should have a free and censorship free place to discuss topics. We have lost our minds: the ability to freely and discuss literally any topic was an American staple. Now you don’t dare say something that could potentially offend someone. I could be fired if I said what I really think about some controversial issues and linked it to my identity. That’s not a world I enjoy livi…

> Joe should have a free and censorship free place to discuss topics.

He has that. He's free to post whatever he wants on his website where many people will see it.

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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Post by joegahona »

mef79 wrote: post #63
CivBase wrote: post #23

Hosting content should not be treated the same supporting it. Plain and simple. A host should have the right to curate the (legal) content they host according to whatever rules they want, but simply hosting it alone should not be treated as tacit endorcement. Otherwise, discenting voices will be left without a platform.

Spotify should be permitted to host what it wants to. But they should also listen to their employees who do the work that makes the platform run. This article isn't about an angry Twitter mob making demands of a private company, it's about workers raising an issue with the company leadership and expecting an appropriate response (which does not necessarily mean removing content) The article is pretty sensationalized…

> Spotify should be permitted to host what it wants to. But they should also listen to their employees who do the work that makes the platform run.

They are. Ek: "The fact that we aren't changing our position doesn't mean we aren't listening. It just means we made a different judgment call."

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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Post by 3131s »

asquabventured wrote: post #19
dragonwriter wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Identity politics will destroy our country The idea of “our country” is , fundamentally, an expression of identity politics. Your disagreement is with other’s choice of primary identity, not with “identity politics” generally.

Wrong my issue is with the recent liberal trend that a humans race, creed, sexual orientation, religious preference, outward appearance, etc are an individuals defining characteristic. And if you don't conform to the bucket they want to place you based on that identity they have created for you that you will be cancelled. It's extremely polarizing and destabilizing to society.

You are missing the point.

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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Post by S_A_P »

Joe is a centrist in leftist clothing. I honestly think this is a good thing. I dont 100% agree with his point of view but we need to figure out how to compromise or just expect a red vs blue civil war. I don’t want this at all. I don’t want to shut down anyone that has a different point of view from me either. Why are we so intent on being right and not compromising??

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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Post by SllX »

austhrow743 wrote: post #29
mikece wrote: post #4

I’m curious what his contract with them stipulates on these matters. As for the employees, they could contact Rogan and either ask to come on the show to discuss what they find so offensive. Joe will talk to anyone, let them have their say and explain their point of view. Arguing to censor his episode history only sends the message that Spotify isn’t a platform for intellectual curiosity and free speech.

>Arguing to censor his episode history only sends the message that Spotify isn’t a platform for intellectual curiosity and free speech Does Spotify market itself as those things?

Maybe they don’t, but they certainly could to broaden their appeal.

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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Post by opifex »

dkdk8283 wrote: post #64
mef79 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify has already made the decision to exclude multiple Joe Rogan episodes from their catalog, this is just a decision of where they draw their line.

This is unfortunate and unacceptable. Joe should have a free and censorship free place to discuss topics. We have lost our minds: the ability to freely and discuss literally any topic was an American staple. Now you don’t dare say something that could potentially offend someone. I could be fired if I said what I really think about some controversial issues and linked it to my identity. That’s not a world I enjoy livi…

Knowing his agreement with Spotify was entered into voluntarily, and based on the evidence now at hand, it seems Joe's commitment to free speech is something less than unconditional.

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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Post by insickness »

t_sawyer wrote: post #5

Lol but they’ve got no problem with Spotify hosting Eminem songs since it’s inception? This is ridiculous.

Maybe these employees could put together some type of Employees Music Resource Center (EMRC) to help the general public not get exposed to viewpoints some people consider negative. They could add a label to the albums they find offensive with an Employee Advisory logo.

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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Post by rjtavares »

dkdk8283 wrote: post #64
mef79 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify has already made the decision to exclude multiple Joe Rogan episodes from their catalog, this is just a decision of where they draw their line.

This is unfortunate and unacceptable. Joe should have a free and censorship free place to discuss topics. We have lost our minds: the ability to freely and discuss literally any topic was an American staple. Now you don’t dare say something that could potentially offend someone. I could be fired if I said what I really think about some controversial issues and linked it to my identity. That’s not a world I enjoy livi…

I'm not convinced we're worse off than in previous decades. Granted, the type of views that are "offensive" changed and there were some clear power shifts (and from your statement I assume you're on the losing side of that shift), but having to conceal your views for fear of retribution was always a thing.

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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Post by S_A_P »

S_A_P wrote: post #74

Joe is a centrist in leftist clothing. I honestly think this is a good thing. I dont 100% agree with his point of view but we need to figure out how to compromise or just expect a red vs blue civil war. I don’t want this at all. I don’t want to shut down anyone that has a different point of view from me either. Why are we so intent on being right and not compromising??

What specifically is middle of the road Joe Rogan saying that is “anti transgender”? Serious question.
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