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Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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>"Many LGBTQAI+/ally Spotifiers feel unwelcome and alienated because of leadership's response in JRE conversations. What is your message to those employees?" another read. Identity politics. Something tells me if JRE wants to go on Spotify he will have to massively self-censor, which will ultimately make it easy for another grassroots JRE-alike to take his place and do what he originally did - have candid, open and h…

My guess is that he signed a contract that says he doesn’t have to self-censor. The issue is going to be blowback within Spotify towards the management team that signed the deal.

I agree. He has a big enough following that he can launch his OWN platform to counteract censorship.

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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post #10

>"Many LGBTQAI+/ally Spotifiers feel unwelcome and alienated because of leadership's response in JRE conversations. What is your message to those employees?" another read. Identity politics. Something tells me if JRE wants to go on Spotify he will have to massively self-censor, which will ultimately make it easy for another grassroots JRE-alike to take his place and do what he originally did - have candid, open and h…

I don’t think Rogan needs Spotify’s money. If he continues as before with zero changes then it’s on Spotify to send the message to all potential partners wether they will be free to be themselves or if they will be censored. I’m sure Spotify’s shareholders will have a lot to say if editorial/censorship decisions reflect negatively on the bottom line. Side note: it’s amazing to me we’re even having the discussion of c…

>Imagine what Spotify’s staff would do if they tried to land one of the biggest conservative podcasters?

Bawl their eyes out and chant protest mantras outside of their office building?

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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post #6

This seems antithetical to everything Joe Rogan presents himself as in his show. I think it’s entirely reasonable for Spotify employees to want a catalog without what they think of as transphobic material. But it seems completely incompatible with hosting Joe Rogan’s show. I would presume that the contract gives Spotify no editorial control over the content. This is going to be interesting.

Yeah, I don't know how it's going to work. He's said previously on his show that he only signed the deal with Spotify because they were going to be hands off and not control who he could talk to, including Alex Jones. As soon as his past episodes were uploaded to Spotify, it was clear that someone was mislead/lied to. Some episodes weren't uploaded to Spotify, like Alex Jones and one of his friends who's a flat earther, but also some comedians that got cancelled by twitter mobs.

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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Identity politics will destroy our country. Whatever happened to freedom of thought? Shameful

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts.

Rogan is mostly an opinion guy but he has spread covid disinformation and hosted guests like Alex Jones who say things like Sandy Hook was staged. That's not harmless self-expression. Spotify is under no obligation to host anyone's content and certainly not required to pay $100M for content that is detrimental to society.

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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>"Many LGBTQAI+/ally Spotifiers feel unwelcome and alienated because of leadership's response in JRE conversations. What is your message to those employees?" another read. Identity politics. Something tells me if JRE wants to go on Spotify he will have to massively self-censor, which will ultimately make it easy for another grassroots JRE-alike to take his place and do what he originally did - have candid, open and h…

The $100M comes from Spotify's broad appeal to sensible listeners of all walks of life. It's why all major media are terrified of scandal. There are niches for every type of opinion but there's a reason you make more money working for Spotify or Netflix or network TV than Infowars.

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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Lol but they’ve got no problem with Spotify hosting Eminem songs since it’s inception? This is ridiculous.

The article is about an internal employee group raising concerns that the leadership team decided in favor of hosting the episodes. I’d guess the group would have similar opinions about the Eminem songs.

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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I guess they're focusing on the JRE podcast because it's so popular, but they already host podcasts that you'd think their "LGBTQAI+/ally" employees would be up in arms about. Just a quick look through the recommended podcasts in the web player, and I see Ben Shapiro's podcast on there, who has much more extreme views on LGBT rights than Joe Rogan does.

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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Identity politics will destroy our country. Whatever happened to freedom of thought? Shameful

> Identity politics will destroy our country The idea of “our country” is , fundamentally, an expression of identity politics. Your disagreement is with other’s choice of primary identity, not with “identity politics” generally.

Wrong my issue is with the recent liberal trend that a humans race, creed, sexual orientation, religious preference, outward appearance, etc are an individuals defining characteristic. And if you don't conform to the bucket they want to place you based on that identity they have created for you that you will be cancelled. It's extremely polarizing and destabilizing to society.

Re: Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting episodes of Joe Rogan

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post #4

I’m curious what his contract with them stipulates on these matters. As for the employees, they could contact Rogan and either ask to come on the show to discuss what they find so offensive. Joe will talk to anyone, let them have their say and explain their point of view. Arguing to censor his episode history only sends the message that Spotify isn’t a platform for intellectual curiosity and free speech.

One thing is free speech and another is giving a platform to dubious characters for them to promote their views unchallenged. What's the risk? you might be smart enough to know better but other's will use Rogan's vouching of X personality to validate their view points "well he was invited to Rogan's show so he must be important and must be listened to! have YOU been featured in Rogan's show?". I'll remind you that a good portion of the population doesn't even think vaccines work and that they do damage, don't think wearing masks help, believe in 'staged false flag' events to the point of bullying victims. The internet has allowed anyone to become a 'soft journalist' but completely ignoring what made journalism work, ethics (depending on the org, of course). See related (specially points 4 & 5): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism_ethics_and_standard...

Honestly I expect that as time goes and people wisen up, the more serious and legit a personality is the less likely they will be to accept an invite to that show until it is just bro-ey comedians and controversial personalities that need a steady flow of more supporters so they will say yes to the opportunity to expose their ideas unchallenged. Controversies sell well and Rogan is aware of that, at the end of it he only cares about growing his wealth and not freedom of speech.

BTW, I believe almost no one wants to change the amendments and remove freedom of speech. Those characters will still have the means to communicate their ideas and will be protected by the law, matter fact I myself have donated to ACLU who have defended the KKK in the court of law for the higher purpose of defending freedom of speech and rightly so. See https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-em-defends-kkks-rig...

I'm assuming fans of Rogan will be happy to read my comment since as Rogan promotes, we should give a platform to anyone or any idea and let people decide by themselves. Or that doesn't apply to his dissenters?

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