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The Rise and Fall of Pret a Manger

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Re: The Rise and Fall of Pret a Manger

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Just in case people don't know, although the name sounds French I've literally never seen one in France. I guess it's like Mexico's Taco Bell or something

The article mentions that it's an English chain.

The name is a pun on the fashion term "prêt-à-porter" which is often used in English. See https://www.net-a-porter.com/ for another example of a brand that riffs on the term without being French.

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Fast eats like this are total rubbish in the UK. Don't know why. SF is so much better. Walk downstairs, grab a quick sandwich at Working Girls, or Specialty's (now dead), or Chipotle. Pret is like 7-Eleven food. Probably for the best that it dies. Fortunately, lots of food carts out in London that'll benefit.

Except 7-11 (and other convenience stores) sandwiches are pretty good (sometimes great) in Japan. It's all about what customers will accept, if people will buy crap that's what will be offered.

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As an American, I've always been so confused by Pret's sandwiches. Specifically, how they're like 95% bread. Seriously. You get their "famous ham and cheese" and it's a mini baguette with like a single layer of ham and cheese. Like the ham and cheese is a condiment, rather than filling. It's a stretch to call what they sell "sandwiches". It's closer to just flavored bread. And remember -- it's not just sugar that inc…

I've eaten both european and american sandwiches. American ones are certainly better "value for money" but only in the sense that they typically feed a family of four. They're kind-of excessive. the US didn't invent the foot-long sub for no reason, worldwide obesity scores had to be earned.

> the foot-long sub

It's meant for two people: https://youtu.be/Hvzw7MOFhQo

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As an American, I've always been so confused by Pret's sandwiches. Specifically, how they're like 95% bread. Seriously. You get their "famous ham and cheese" and it's a mini baguette with like a single layer of ham and cheese. Like the ham and cheese is a condiment, rather than filling. It's a stretch to call what they sell "sandwiches". It's closer to just flavored bread. And remember -- it's not just sugar that inc…

These sort of places prey on people who have no idea what a proper amount of protein looks like. A single slice of ham is so small an amount it’s practically a rounding error in the overall scheme of a balanced diet.

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Just in case people don't know, although the name sounds French I've literally never seen one in France. I guess it's like Mexico's Taco Bell or something

Up until 20 years ago a foreign language was compulsory in UK secondary schools through the equivalent of US high school. The default foreign language that virtually every school would teach was French, with other languages usually being a nice to have. There’d be the occasional school that taught German but not French. Up until very recently it could be assumed that virtually every educated Briton could read French to a low level. And up until the 70s at least not being able to speak French on some level would have been vaguely embarrassing for middle class strivers. Writing things in French is not a claim to be from France, it’s a class thing.

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American here (work in downtown Chicago), I used to get Pret several times a week as one of their stores was right next door to my office. They have delicious sandwiches, bakery items, and fruit cups, but it's very expensive - a croissant and a breakfast sandwich ran close to $10.

It's a great place if you want to eat healthy and have a short lunch time, but there are better options to deliver from if you're WFH.

Re: The Rise and Fall of Pret a Manger

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Fast eats like this are total rubbish in the UK. Don't know why. SF is so much better. Walk downstairs, grab a quick sandwich at Working Girls, or Specialty's (now dead), or Chipotle. Pret is like 7-Eleven food. Probably for the best that it dies. Fortunately, lots of food carts out in London that'll benefit.

Maybe a slightly upscale 7-11?

I associate Pret with airports for some reason.

I’ve eaten at several Pret a Mangers in London and they were ok, nothing to write home about but not bad. Better than a grocery store sandwich. Similar to an Amazon Go sandwich. Better than Subway. Here in Chicago we have a chain called Potbelly that’s pretty good and Pret is definitely below them. (Also it seems the only Pret still open in the US is the one on the UChicago campus)

Re: The Rise and Fall of Pret a Manger

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Fast eats like this are total rubbish in the UK. Don't know why. SF is so much better. Walk downstairs, grab a quick sandwich at Working Girls, or Specialty's (now dead), or Chipotle. Pret is like 7-Eleven food. Probably for the best that it dies. Fortunately, lots of food carts out in London that'll benefit.

> Specialty's

What killed them? We lost ours just about 18 months ago.

They seemed to be in a perfect spot, too. Only restaurant in a 20 floor office building. We used them for lunch when customers came in all the time.

How could you screw that one up? Or was it that all their leases expired simultaneously and they just couldn't pay the now-expensive rent?

Re: The Rise and Fall of Pret a Manger

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post #20

As an American, I've always been so confused by Pret's sandwiches. Specifically, how they're like 95% bread. Seriously. You get their "famous ham and cheese" and it's a mini baguette with like a single layer of ham and cheese. Like the ham and cheese is a condiment, rather than filling. It's a stretch to call what they sell "sandwiches". It's closer to just flavored bread. And remember -- it's not just sugar that inc…

I've eaten both european and american sandwiches. American ones are certainly better "value for money" but only in the sense that they typically feed a family of four. They're kind-of excessive. the US didn't invent the foot-long sub for no reason, worldwide obesity scores had to be earned.

> that they typically feed a family of four

That's true of some things at American sit-down restaurants.

But hardly true for a cold sandwich at a sandwich shop. Even a Subway "footlong" club sandwich is just 620 calories. Assuming a 2,000 cal/day diet, that's a little under a third of what you need. Or, in other words, exactly the right size for a balanced lunch if your calorie requirements are on the lesser side.

How exactly does 620 calories feed a family of four? Or how is it excessive at all?

Obviously it goes without saying the sandwich is the complete meal (no adding soda or chips).

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post #28

Fast eats like this are total rubbish in the UK. Don't know why. SF is so much better. Walk downstairs, grab a quick sandwich at Working Girls, or Specialty's (now dead), or Chipotle. Pret is like 7-Eleven food. Probably for the best that it dies. Fortunately, lots of food carts out in London that'll benefit.

> Specialty's What killed them? We lost ours just about 18 months ago. They seemed to be in a perfect spot, too. Only restaurant in a 20 floor office building. We used them for lunch when customers came in all the time. How could you screw that one up? Or was it that all their leases expired simultaneously and they just couldn't pay the now-expensive rent?

They were expanding heavily on a bet that the economy would grow. COVID19 hit, they were forced to shut, their primary income streams were in places where they counted on office workers (who now stayed home). They were one of the earliest COVID casualties.
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