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Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

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Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

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post #72

>Unfortunately, some abusive users were beginning to use Send to ship malware and conduct spear phishing attacks. Isn't it absurdly incompetent of them not to foresee this?

Yes. The engineers that worked on it foresaw it, but for some reason management didn't care.

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#112
post #89

I used Firefox Send for deliverables on a commission. It was so easy . I could send updated versions and set a date for the download to expire to make sure both sides were on the current version. That was worth money. They could have charged for it.

Yes. Yes, we should have charged money for it.

Sigh.

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#114
post #60

“divide, conquer and destroy” - slogan of current Mozilla management

What the heck does this even mean. This flavor of complaint would make more sense if you were criticizing Mozilla having too many services.

Money, they divided all the money company had in form of super high paychecks and bonuses.

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#115

Wrong title, Mozilla; title should have been "Firefox Send and Firefox Notes to be discontinued soon", or something like that. Don't hide behind the fact. Tell the fact in the title.

Firefox Send was effectively shut down months ago due to it being used to spread malware, but you could find messages saying that they're working on bringing it back. I interpret this news as "it's not coming back".

> I interpret this news as "it's not coming back".

No need for interpretation, they state it flat out:

"In the intervening period [since the temporary shutdown], as we weighed the cost of our overall portfolio and strategic focus, we've made the decision not to relaunch the service."

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I presume bandwidth and storage are the main concerns since I doubt compute dominates in this kind of service.

You're right! Luckily files have a maximum lifetime of 1 day, which helps with storage. Almost no computing needed. Expensive en/decrypting operations are done on the client.

Do you know what you'll do when people start sharing illegal content?

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#117
post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right! Luckily files have a maximum lifetime of 1 day, which helps with storage. Almost no computing needed. Expensive en/decrypting operations are done on the client.

Do you know what you'll do when people start sharing illegal content?

Not worry about it? It's not like he can see it anyways, it's encrypted on the client.

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#118
This is inevitable. Mozilla should focus on their browser tech and monetization, instead of creating competing services to other consumer focused startups.

Listen to the developers and implement API. Firefox web API implementation is so far behind from Chrome. It is saddening.

Sell and bring values to developers. They are your most likely customers, not the general public.

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#119
post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right! Luckily files have a maximum lifetime of 1 day, which helps with storage. Almost no computing needed. Expensive en/decrypting operations are done on the client.

Do you know what you'll do when people start sharing illegal content?

Good question. Simple answer: no.

I've thought about it though, but haven't settled on anything yet. I can't inspect files. I'll add an abuse report notice soon, abuse@ is already live. I'll attempt to manually review cases. That doesn't prevent illegal sharing, but I think that's the best I can do. If things get out of hand, I might take the instance down. I don't want to support hosting illegal stuff.

A newer Send version (yet to deploy) also shows a clear warning, and requires users to tick a confirmation box, when downloading through the webpage. I hope that helps preventing malware installations.

Re: Update on Firefox Send and Firefox Notes

#120
post #118

This is inevitable. Mozilla should focus on their browser tech and monetization, instead of creating competing services to other consumer focused startups. Listen to the developers and implement API. Firefox web API implementation is so far behind from Chrome. It is saddening. Sell and bring values to developers. They are your most likely customers, not the general public.

Weird that they mentioned three products this helps them focus on, and Firefox wasn't one of them... I'm afraid that internally, they've already given up on Firefox.
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