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Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade

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Re: Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade

#151

3DS is an excellent platform to learn Japanese games. I fully recommend it. I think it's an amazing time, and the games will stand the test of time just like the original mario series because the content is rich and great vs having to fall back on pushing systems & I/O to the max. Nothing recently has given me as much joy as to replay N64 classics on the 3DS with better graphics, added gameplay and 100% solely in Jap…

Can you make some recommendations? I‘ve tried my luck with the Japanese DS Zelda games because they have furigana (either above characters or when tapping), but I couldn’t get far since there has been too much dialect. In Pokemon B/W there overall has been too much text. I didn’t try playing something I knew by heart yet tho. Are you referring to something like the N64 Zelda 3DS remakes (which are excellent)?

Re: Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade

#152

3DS is an excellent platform to learn Japanese games. I fully recommend it. I think it's an amazing time, and the games will stand the test of time just like the original mario series because the content is rich and great vs having to fall back on pushing systems & I/O to the max. Nothing recently has given me as much joy as to replay N64 classics on the 3DS with better graphics, added gameplay and 100% solely in Jap…

Can you make some recommendations? I‘ve tried my luck with the Japanese DS Zelda games because they have furigana (either above characters or when tapping), but I couldn’t get far since there has been too much dialect. In Pokemon B/W there overall has been too much text. I didn’t try playing something I knew by heart yet tho. Are you referring to something like the N64 Zelda 3DS remakes (which are excellent)?

As with learning any language, immersion is key.

This is very late intermediate stage - to put yourself into having to read "Japanese."

I would only do it after knowing and writing/speaking Hiragana and Katakana outloud, several times, written it over and over and listening to songs (or any text, but songs have lyrics and it's easy) over and over and doing the lyrics over and over to kick in the muscle memory.

My secret, really, was learning the kana via Kyary Paymu Paymu songs. I enjoyed them, but, after doing that, over and over, the alure was lost and it took me about 3 years before I could listen to Pon Pon Pon again. But - the repetition in the song drilled down the kana for me.

If you already know Kana, then basic vocabulary/grammar. There's a great app on the Android App Store called "Kanji Study"

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mindtwiste...

It's been further tweaked and is more refined then what it used to be, but the memory games are super useful for both kana and N5/N4 Kanji - the basic of the basics.

As for playing with a game/any game, it all falls together after a while - you see the pattern, you "get" the idea, but I would use a dictionary such as Akebi on Android or Jisho.org (Jisho literally means dictionary.) or even translate.google.com and each word you don't know, add it to a unique list and study/drill those over and over.

Soon it will come together. It's very slow at first, and painful, even though I could read Kana and had N5, I suffered reading the "warning" screens on the 3ds even though they're for kids, some of the words did not make sense, but the context was implied.

That's it, as for the games:

Pokemon is great, Zelda is also great, but if you really want to excel -

Karaoke.

You can go to youtube, and find karaoke songs to listen too - the 3dS joysound app stopped/died, but it's still on the WiiU and on the Switch and it is excellent, it offers near 100% furigana (except for very very simple kanji) and being forced to sing along makes you vocal quick.

You can also youtube "karaoke battle" or general karaoke after songs.

"カラオケバテル”

”カラオケ”

I personally enjoy lots of J-pop (which made learning the language much more easily/motivated) so I used songs I knew such as Tatsuhiro Yamashita

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rzBvkcHUz4

山下達郎 RIDE ON TIME (カラオケ)

And then just drilled on that as if it was memory cards or study drilling.

Pokemon games are good, zelda is great. Mario isn't per se as there isn't much "text" The inkling for a bit of puzzle makes it more that you need to "understand" what the meaning is, as it's different in English.

Context is much more inferred then stated in Japanese.

Phoenix Wright Professor Layton Animal Crossing

Then you can go onto some normal plain jane ds games, final fantasy and Square Enix titles are great once you're nearing the end of intermediate understanding.

Re: Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade

#153

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A 3D graphing calculator would be quite cool, I think.

I have the HP Prime that is basically this. The programming language is pretty terrible but you can get pretty impressive 3D plots (with touchscreen as well!) if you install a plugin

It has a 3D display like the 3DS?

Re: Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade

#154
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I'll be disappointed if Super Metroid doesn't make this list of yours.

Super Metroid is available on Switch Online. Super Mario RPG would be my pick from here that is almost impossible to find legally.

Super Mario RPG is on the SNES Classic.

Re: Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade

#155
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The 3DS, in particular the "New" models, I think are really recommended to pick up cheap. They are well built devices that are supremely hackable with access to lots of fun games. The 3DS library is good despite somewhat lacking in diversity. But the 3DS also has native compatibility with the entire excellent DS library, and after hacking it can also run the entire great GBA library without emulation (like Matroshka…

I was confused by this article because the 3DS has been unavailable for months now (except for random editions from Amazon sellers for above MSRP).

The main change seems to be them removing the 3DS page from the Nintendo website? My impression was that they stopped making them long ago and were only making new versions of the 2DS (which kind of defeats the entire purpose of the device).

They also don't make enough Switch consoles to meet demand, and they don't update basic things with their software (friend codes really?)

I'm not sure what the culture is like at Nintendo, but there's a lot of low hanging fruit that would make things a lot better (and make them a lot more money at the same time).

Re: Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade

#156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, that's what I'm getting at. It's not an easy 1:1 translation. It was nice for games like Pokémon; easy access to the inventory, little mini-games on the touch screen, stuff like that. It obviously blew right up in their faces with the Wii U, but it worked for a certain class of game.

Yes, but the Wii U DS eShop emulator supported showing both screens on your TV. They could do the same on Switch. See about 0:40 in the video I linked.

I think perardi is referring to how the touchscreen gimmick of the Wii U wasn't as successful as it was on the DS and 3DS, not to any problems with the emulation.

Re: Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade

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I sort of wonder if there's going to be a barrage of exploits held until end-of-life that's going to be released now. EDIT: I'm already aware that the system has been exploited to death and back, so I'm mostly curious if people haven't already dumped everything.

Indeed, I know some hacks were being held back until end-of-life. For example the author of SoundHax (one of the most important tools in 3DS hacking) said he was holding something off: https://twitter.com/nedwilliamson/status/874594459744423936

However this all assumes that updates will stop, and I'm not so sure that Nintendo would even announce such a thing.

Re: Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade

#158

Sorry about this, as it's an old argument that everyone here knows, but I wish Nintendo would stop making systems and just focus on their games on competing platforms. They do it for the money. So if I want to have the next Zelda, Mario/MK, DK I have to pay the 300 cost for the system first, then the price of the game ($60 on release day?) I mean, I get it from their perspective. Every Nintendo I purchase the number…

Nintendo has a long history of taking hardware risks that are targeted at actually making interesting new types of gameplay possible.

The richness of games available would not be possible if Nintendo was not in the picture as a hardware manufacturer and had to target all their games at MS/Sony hardware.

Sony & MS have almost never tried any novel hardware and been able to tie it to unique gameplay that was actually successful. They've only tried to copy Nintendo's ideas, mostly failed, and then cancelled the hardware. See Kinect, Playstation Move controllers for PS3, etc.. it was all just copying the Wii.

A lot of the games on DS and 3DS would never have seen the light of day with their unique gameplay elements without Nintendo doing the experimental hardware required.

Re: Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade

#159
post #58

The 3DS, in particular the "New" models, I think are really recommended to pick up cheap. They are well built devices that are supremely hackable with access to lots of fun games. The 3DS library is good despite somewhat lacking in diversity. But the 3DS also has native compatibility with the entire excellent DS library, and after hacking it can also run the entire great GBA library without emulation (like Matroshka…

I was confused by this article because the 3DS has been unavailable for months now (except for random editions from Amazon sellers for above MSRP). The main change seems to be them removing the 3DS page from the Nintendo website? My impression was that they stopped making them long ago and were only making new versions of the 2DS (which kind of defeats the entire purpose of the device). They also don't make enough Sw…

I don't think the 2DS defeats the purpose of the device. The 3D aspect was by design only used in optional ways by nearly all developers and the 2DS as a great, cheaper, lighter alternative to the original. If anything it makes the handheld more focused and useful by stripping away something that was never really effective to begin with.

Re: Nintendo 3DS discontinued after almost a decade

#160
post #58

The 3DS, in particular the "New" models, I think are really recommended to pick up cheap. They are well built devices that are supremely hackable with access to lots of fun games. The 3DS library is good despite somewhat lacking in diversity. But the 3DS also has native compatibility with the entire excellent DS library, and after hacking it can also run the entire great GBA library without emulation (like Matroshka…

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