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The Battle over Dyslexia

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Re: The Battle over Dyslexia

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I'm surprised Astigmastism is not mentioned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astigmatism

Astigmatism is fairly common in the population, results in blurry vision which impacts reading and thus impacts education. It often also results in behavioral issues from the frustration caused in kids with blurry vision who don't know how to express that's the problem.

Anecdotal experience of a couple family members who struggled, once their Astigmatism was corrected they went on to excel.

Re: The Battle over Dyslexia

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Re: The Battle over Dyslexia

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The debate seems to be around whether the word dyslexia should be used, but the condition --- however named --- exists anyway. The proposed phrase "struggling with reading comprehension" is no less broad, or actually more broad, than _dyslexia_, and in my opinion brings no additional value to the situation.

I've known a person diagnosed with Dyslexia, and he was simultaneously one of the most well-read, eloquent person I'd known, and the most struggling with spelling. Even words he had to write daily (being a teacher and all), he couldn't spell with high accuracy.

If you tell me, he was just "struggling" with spelling, that's no different than telling me a myopic person is just "struggling" to see, or a person with a club foot is just "struggling" to walk.

Of course, I don't object that there are difficulties in the diagnosis or even a precise definition of dyslexia. But, to me, that sounds like we need more research to understand what's happening. If you want me to believe that the condition alltogether doesn't exist, I'd like to see some more evidence.

Re: The Battle over Dyslexia

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> The method for diagnosing dyslexia, known as the discrepancy model, was relatively straightforward: test a child’s IQ and their reading age, and if there was a discrepancy between the two – average-to-high IQ, low literacy – that child was dyslexic. Elliott felt unsure about these assessments. The children he tested for dyslexia all struggled to read and write – that much was clear – but their literacy difficulties manifested in different ways.

I'm a dyslexic, and I was given extra attention is school that significantly helped me. I have a pet theory, and this article seems to agree with it to some extent, that there are several or many different neurological conditions that are often put in the same label 'dyslexia'. I hope that one day more research is done to separate out the different underlying neurological states so we can better teach all children to read. The article's conclusion -- that because dyslexia is an inprecise term we should abandoned it to an even less precise term -- is flawed. We should instead work towards creating more precise language and understanding around the different ways low literacy manifests in children.

If I was an incredibly wealthy technocrat this would be a pet research field of mine. If we can improve childhood literacy education it will have massive returns on that person's lifetime contribution to society. Understanding how the brain processes language also has significant implications for other lines of research as well.

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> The method for diagnosing dyslexia, known as the discrepancy model, was relatively straightforward: test a child’s IQ and their reading age, and if there was a discrepancy between the two – average-to-high IQ, low literacy – that child was dyslexic. Elliott felt unsure about these assessments. The children he tested for dyslexia all struggled to read and write – that much was clear – but their literacy difficulties…

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Re: The Battle over Dyslexia

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> The method for diagnosing dyslexia, known as the discrepancy model, was relatively straightforward: test a child’s IQ and their reading age, and if there was a discrepancy between the two – average-to-high IQ, low literacy – that child was dyslexic. Elliott felt unsure about these assessments. The children he tested for dyslexia all struggled to read and write – that much was clear – but their literacy difficulties…

We do have a term: slow to learn to read. We don't need dyslexia or some more specific term unless those terms can be used for better treatment. In this case dyslexia is too specific: kids who don't fit the definition are being actively harmed because the treatment would help them just as much as it fit those who it helps.

It may well be dyslexia (or a more specific term) may mean some other treatment can be helpful only for those who have it, and not for the general population of poor readers. This hasn't been suggested (to my knowledge), but it is possible.

Though I will note that the definition of Autism has gotten broader over time as treatments have been discovered to help kids who didn't fit the previous definition.

Re: The Battle over Dyslexia

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I'm surprised the article only mentions in passing the aspect of dyslexia that I always heard as the defining condition, that letters get easily mixed up or moved around (I'm no expert, nor dyslexic, although I had some friends in school who were). Is that the issue for most people with dyslexia or is that just a pop-culture simplification?

Re: The Battle over Dyslexia

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The font Verdana has been the best thing for me. None of the 'dyslexia fonts' have been desirable. You might need to increase the size a little (depending on how the UI renders it) but it's very enjoyable to me.

I tend to even switch words when I read my kids because the font isn't normal to me, as opposed to when I'm on a computer.

Re: The Battle over Dyslexia

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I'm surprised Astigmastism is not mentioned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astigmatism Astigmatism is fairly common in the population, results in blurry vision which impacts reading and thus impacts education. It often also results in behavioral issues from the frustration caused in kids with blurry vision who don't know how to express that's the problem. Anecdotal experience of a couple family members who struggled,…

Testing for vision issues such as astigmatism is usually performed before some one is proclaimed to be dyslexic.

Re: The Battle over Dyslexia

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In the 70s, when dyslexia had a jump in 'popularity' (according to google ngram too), an education psychologist I knew had a curious experience. There was a television program about this thing called dyslexia. In the following weeks and months, many parents came to him to announce that their child had dyslexia and must be treated specially. I guess this is not actually that curious. In the sense that conditions seem…

While that exists, it also happens that people are under diagnosed for somewhat rare conditions. If you don't know you have a condition it cannot be treated. If you have an explained symptom that your doctor can't explain and suddenly you find an explanation it is correct to see the doctor who understands it enough to diagnose you.

Of course the above gives quack a start, once you can explain something with BS you can spread it for money. I don't have a solution.

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