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DNA sequencing of Viking skeletons reveals they weren’t all Scandinavian

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Re: DNA sequencing of Viking skeletons reveals they weren’t all Scandinavian

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No shit. Do the people who believe immigration was invented in the 60s also believe the Vikings used to wear horned helmets?

Concepts taken as the basis of a world view not existing at all tends to throw people off as they cannot shake the later ideas of fixed hard boarders and citizenship by blood. To their worldview there should be a fundamental traceable line to back before these distinct entities existed. It is the us vs them line to many.

Their ideas of ethnicity are fundamentally lies which while old aren't as old as they claim to be. People tend to freak out when foundational beliefs are revealed to be lies regardless of how innocous - see the reaction to imaginary numbers, non-Euclidian geometry not only being proposed but proven to be real and the legendary Pythagorean freak out over pi proving that not all numbers are rational.

Re: DNA sequencing of Viking skeletons reveals they weren’t all Scandinavian

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I was really hoping for new information on a statistically significant difference in the amount of Neanderthal DNA in old Viking skeletons versus modern time Scandinavians.

The Viking era was only about a thousand years ago (vs Neanderthals who died about 35,000 years ago). It's highly unlikely they weren't completely modern humans in every sense of the word.

If there were populations with significant relict Neanderthal DNA, you'd be looking at more like the Celt/Gaul populations, and talking at least a thousand years before that -- think the British isles, before the Angles/Saxons moved in. And even that is very... speculative history.

Re: DNA sequencing of Viking skeletons reveals they weren’t all Scandinavian

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No shit. Do the people who believe immigration was invented in the 60s also believe the Vikings used to wear horned helmets?

Concepts taken as the basis of a world view not existing at all tends to throw people off as they cannot shake the later ideas of fixed hard boarders and citizenship by blood. To their worldview there should be a fundamental traceable line to back before these distinct entities existed. It is the us vs them line to many. Their ideas of ethnicity are fundamentally lies which while old aren't as old as they claim to be…

If people freak out that the Vikings weren't pure-bred Scandinavians, wait until they learn about the identical ancestor point [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_ancestors_point

Re: DNA sequencing of Viking skeletons reveals they weren’t all Scandinavian

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I was really hoping for new information on a statistically significant difference in the amount of Neanderthal DNA in old Viking skeletons versus modern time Scandinavians.

The Viking era was only about a thousand years ago (vs Neanderthals who died about 35,000 years ago). It's highly unlikely they weren't completely modern humans in every sense of the word. If there were populations with significant relict Neanderthal DNA, you'd be looking at more like the Celt/Gaul populations, and talking at least a thousand years before that -- think the British isles, before the Angles/Saxons move…

> If there were populations with significant relict Neanderthal DNA, you'd be looking at more like the Celt/Gaul populations, and talking at least a thousand years before that -- think the British isles, before the Angles/Saxons moved in. And even that is very... speculative history.

Very speculative indeed, considering there was plenty of movement of people between the British Isles and the continent before the Anglo-Saxons arrived (who themselves had surprisingly little impact on the genetic makeup of the British people [0]). And if there was significant Neanderthal DNA in the British Isles 1500 years ago, it would still be detectable among living generations (it isn't).

[0] https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14230

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