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ASCII Pronunciation Rules for Programmers [2008]

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Re: ASCII Pronunciation Rules for Programmers [2008]

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post #25

So am I the only one who calls "-" a tack? As in chmod tack R

Never heard that one before. "dash" or "minus" is all I've ever come across.

Minus always annoys me, because it's long and most times (e.g., chmod R )you're never actually minusing anything. *

* Some Solaris commands use plus and minus to add and subtract things, but a) everyone hates Solaris commands b) this breaks with convention, hence a).

Re: ASCII Pronunciation Rules for Programmers [2008]

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post #41

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Never heard that one before. "dash" or "minus" is all I've ever come across.

Minus always annoys me, because it's long and most times (e.g., chmod R )you're never actually minusing anything. * * Some Solaris commands use plus and minus to add and subtract things, but a) everyone hates Solaris commands b) this breaks with convention, hence a).

Yes, I agree. Most "minus" people from my experience have been non-programmers, or at least non-everyday-unix-users that I've either had to train or walk through procedures, etc. And almost universally young.

Re: ASCII Pronunciation Rules for Programmers [2008]

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post #3

No reference to {} as mustaches? Three years are a long time.

I've always called them 'curly brackets' which, on reflection, is a little like calling a keyboard a 'typey box'. Funny how long you can do something without really questioning what you're doing!

I call them curly brackets {} to distinguish from square brackets [] and angle brackets .

Re: ASCII Pronunciation Rules for Programmers [2008]

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post #18
post #15

I work with French programmers, so that opens an entire other can of worms. Colon becomes "two points" and semi-colon becomes "point comma".

As a French speaker it make total sense to me; it just describes it. I just searched quickly how to explain that the semi-colon is somehow half a colon. I couldn't find anything.

Maybe it has to do with the amount of time you pause when reading aloud? You pause for less time at a semi-colon then at a "full" colon.

Re: ASCII Pronunciation Rules for Programmers [2008]

#45
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never heard that one before. "dash" or "minus" is all I've ever come across.

Minus always annoys me, because it's long and most times (e.g., chmod R )you're never actually minusing anything. * * Some Solaris commands use plus and minus to add and subtract things, but a) everyone hates Solaris commands b) this breaks with convention, hence a).

Yeah, "minus" is math and sounds wrong on the command line.

Re: ASCII Pronunciation Rules for Programmers [2008]

#46
post #28

When I first started programming, I didn't know which of the two symbols / or \ was "forward slash" or "back slash", so I got into the habit of calling them "uphill" and "downhill", respectively. I still tend to use those terms when I'm working with people who aren't computer savvy, and those terms tend to be a bit more intuitive and help avoid confusion.

uphill and downhill assume going left to right. forward slash and backslash both assume going left to right. How is this an improvement? Maybe call them right-slash and left-slash, with the lean prefix implied? This would probably help our right to left language friends.

I'm a little ashamed to admit it, but I always had a hard time remembering where the "hinge" was on the slashes.

Let me explain: Assume that the slash begins like a pipe |. If the slash has a hinge at the bottom (like most people intuitively assume), then / is "leaning forward" and \ is "leaning back". However, if, when you look at the slash, you assume the hinge is on the top, then it looks like / is "swinging back" and \ is "swinging forward".

So until I figured out where people were putting the "hinge", "back" and "forward" seemed arbitrary. I know it sounds strange, but it was a great source of confusion for me.

Edit: The phrase "lefty loosey, righty tighty" also confused me until I figured out that "left" and "right" were relative to the direction that the top of the screw/bolt moved, not the bottom.

Re: ASCII Pronunciation Rules for Programmers [2008]

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post #25

So am I the only one who calls "-" a tack? As in chmod tack R

I first heard that on the Hak5 podcast, and assumed it was a Virginia think (Darren's from Virginia), but later he realized that no one else said it that way and it took a while for him to remember where he'd learned that. I think he got it from his friend "mubix" (Rob Fuller) who is a US Marine and apparently the Marines call it a "tack". Not sure if it's true or if mubix just invented that, but it's my best guess :)

Re: ASCII Pronunciation Rules for Programmers [2008]

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post #20

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| AU | square brackets | parentheses | +----+-----------------+-------------+ :(

Is there nothing commonly called just 'brackets' in Oz?

In high school, my maths teachers all insist ( ) are `parentheses`.

The sibling post's author thinks that ( ) are brackets.

Clearly there are two different populations here. That's why the need to explicitly specify which "brackets".

Re: ASCII Pronunciation Rules for Programmers [2008]

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post #22
post #16

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Swedish also has a funny name for the @-sign, named after the trunk of an elephant. In fact, quite a few languages do. Here's a short sample from the Wikipedia article: In Swedish and Danish the sign is known as the "snabel a" (literally trunk a), owning to the resemblance between the sign and the trunk of an elephant. In Norwegian the term most commonly used is "krøllalfa" (literally: curled alpha). In Greek the sig…

And in the Netherlands, we call it a ape's tail (we use 'ape' both for monkeys and ape's.)

And also in Romania.
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