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Re: Nova by Panic

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As a small business owner, I envy Panic, in a good way. They do great work, and charge good money for it, and people don't mind paying because if you know Panic, you know their product is worth the cost. That's priceless. I wish they did more, TBH. I'd pay just to enjoy their work.

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intellij is functionally the same. Buying a subscription gets you one year updates, and then whatever that last version is remains functional forever.

Sketch too. I recently re-downloaded it and they said "You can download anything up to version [x]"

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Re: Nova by Panic

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post #30

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intellij is functionally the same. Buying a subscription gets you one year updates, and then whatever that last version is remains functional forever.

Sketch too. I recently re-downloaded it and they said "You can download anything up to version [x]"

Sketch has been like that for a while.

The app now has a special licensing setup that restricts your installs to two machines.

Sketch made a thing about leaving the App Store.

But the App Store licensing and update process was way better than what it has evolved to.

Re: Nova by Panic

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It might also matter what languages the poster is using. Programming typescript in vscode is a peerless experience. But writing C and Rust feel much worse - I get 200+ ms latency navigating around and typing sometimes, and cmd+click navigation gets janky and breaks very regularly in both of those languages. I assume the culprit is half baked language extensions. I love vscode for typescript but I’d happily switch whi…

Man, and I'm here thinking it's just my VSCode that's super slow and sluggish while editing C++ code. I switch to Clion and it's surprisingly more responsive than VSCode, given Clion is a whole IDE in itself.

Yeah I highly recommend giving VSCode another try if you ever end up writing typescript. Typescript in vscode is so great that its weird to me that Nova is targetting web development. VSCode sets a really high bar for this community.

In comparison, programming Swift in XCode lags so much sometimes that it starts missing keystrokes, and I end up with variable names that are missing half their letters. (This happens particularly when filling in a function's arguments). Its terrible, and it leaves me second guessing the idea that native editors are superior by default. This seems to me like a much more useful target for a new IDE.

Re: Nova by Panic

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They call it “native”, but I don’t know, those screenshots look nothing native to me. Being “native” doesn’t just mean having a C++ codebase, it also means using the native OS UI frameworks.

It does look like it uses Cocoa. What are you seeing that doesn't look like Cocoa? Custom controls doesn't count; those can still be based on NSView and use other Cocoa controls in their implementation.

Even if NSView-backed, custom views that replace basic functionality aren’t really native to me. Here, the entire window frame, all widgets, etc. are not native. It looks, to me, like an Electron or RN “app”.

Re: Nova by Panic

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>I can't imagine the world of hurt, discomfort and frustration of developing against a lib set I can't read source code of or improve. Thank you . It boggles the mind that anyone who can write code would ever use a closed source operating system.

Do the Windows based laptops have a similar touchpad like the Mac which just works, last time I checked they did not.

At the same price point in the professional space, of course. Lenovo X series and System76 have solid touchpads- and have for years.

Re: Nova by Panic

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intellij is functionally the same. Buying a subscription gets you one year updates, and then whatever that last version is remains functional forever.

As I understand it, the IntelliJ version you can keep using forever is the one from the beginning of the subscription. So while the subscription was valid, you got upgrades, and then if you don't renew, you have to downgrade. It's their way of nudging customers to keep paying. It's working for me.

The version is refreshed on an annual basis of payments. So your fallback version will always lag, but it won't be significantly out of date if you have a 4 year old account, for instance.

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post #345

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>I can't imagine the world of hurt, discomfort and frustration of developing against a lib set I can't read source code of or improve. Thank you . It boggles the mind that anyone who can write code would ever use a closed source operating system.

Do the Windows based laptops have a similar touchpad like the Mac which just works, last time I checked they did not.

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Re: Nova by Panic

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post #345

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Do the Windows based laptops have a similar touchpad like the Mac which just works, last time I checked they did not.

At the same price point in the professional space, of course. Lenovo X series and System76 have solid touchpads- and have for years.

“Solid” does not mean comparable. I have both high end dell and Lenovo laptops for work, and my Mac at home. My girlfriends MacBook Pro is far nicer to use despite being slower. Even for Windows.
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