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Re: Nova by Panic

#141
Not that it's a bad thing but it looks like the extension API and architecture has lifted a fair amount from VS Code.

I kind of wish they went all in on LSP and made their extension API via additional JSON RPC methods on top of the base protocol. Because that's what extension authors are using to share code between an extension/editor, LSP is the only thing somewhat consistent and the client surface area is tiny.

Re: Nova by Panic

#142
post #117

I am so confused why they didn't put efforts into making this an iPad app. There is a market for something like this that developers are crying out for, but on mac why would anyone use this over VSCode (and pay $99 for the privilege?)

Does anyone seriously want to develop on the iPad?

Re: Nova by Panic

#143

I've been using the beta version of Nova for a few weeks now and I've almost used my trial period for the 1.0. As a TypeScript developer, if someone made me choose between paying $99 for the actually-free VS Code, or buy Nova, I would by VS Code without hesitation. Before it began getting long in the tooth I was a big Coda fan. On the whole I like VS Code but I do suffer the occasional runaway process so I am open-mi…

I like Panic’s products a lot, particularly Transmit, but for something I use day in and day out to write code, munge datasets to solve production incidents, build and run code, etc., I can’t imagine improving upon a terminal with vim and standard Unix utils. I’m not a total console-chauvinist, I use a GUI email client. But every time I’ve tried any IDE or graphical editor like this, no matter how customizable it is,…

That's why I'm surprised they bother with the bathrooom sink. Everyone will use the code editor. Not everyone will use terminal/git. Make the editor first.

Re: Nova by Panic

#144
post #28

I love native Mac apps, I love Panic…but I’m not sure what this gets me over Visual Studio Code, besides a Preferences pane that isn’t inscrutable. I’m not sure there’s enough of a market on the Mac for another commercial code editor, as we already have BBEdit for hard-core text wrangling. (And obviously all the open-source options.)

> I’m not sure there’s enough of a market on the Mac for another commercial code editor, as we already have BBEdit for hard-core text wrangling. That's going to be my issue with Nova, I think -- well, already is, as I've been beta-testing it. (I even have a theme in Nova's extension gallery!) There are a few things specifically relating to text manipulation rather than coding that BBEdit just does super well for me,…

Mm-hmm, and despite my skepticism, I am also tempted.

What’s your experience with the theming engine? I use Hugo for my static site generator, and I doubt there’s a theme for that particular flavor yet. (I severely doubt my ability to craft a theme, regardless of how easy it is, but I am tempted.)

Re: Nova by Panic

#146

I see a lot of folks here comparing this to VS Code and asking "Why would I use this instead?" — I am exactly on the opposite side of that equation. Why would I use VS Code when I can use this? I've been using Atom for most of the decade (plus a bit of Sublime, and TextMate before), and I've loved being able to hack it to look and feel exactly how I want. There's a ton of custom CSS in my setup. Now, Atom is slow. Th…

>The latency on every keypress is grating.

May I ask what computer are you using? I would say VS Code runs 'buttery smooth' on my macs. Is this a case of me having no idea of what I'm missing?

Re: Nova by Panic

#147

I just don't understand why all this work didn't go into making an iOS text editor. Why did they choose Mac OS? It's the most saturated platform when it comes to editors. Meanwhile, the only thing that keeps me from using my iPad Pro full-time is the lack of a serious text editor and terminal.

Probably because for most of the use cases, you couldn’t actually do anything with the code you write without involving another machine. It’s not like you can spin up a node server.

I too would like to use my iPad Pro for work stuff, but I would say the thing standing in my way is Apple.

Re: Nova by Panic

#148
The warp speed when you mouse over the "Download Nova for Free" CTA is gorgeous. It's over the top, but it's gorgeous.

On Safari, anyway; on Chrome, it's very jittery.

Re: Nova by Panic

#149

I've been using the beta version of Nova for a few weeks now and I've almost used my trial period for the 1.0. As a TypeScript developer, if someone made me choose between paying $99 for the actually-free VS Code, or buy Nova, I would by VS Code without hesitation. Before it began getting long in the tooth I was a big Coda fan. On the whole I like VS Code but I do suffer the occasional runaway process so I am open-mi…

> The default editing experience is lightweight, and that's a good thing. But the plugin story is dire. Plugins like ESLint and Prettier crash constantly, requiring an app restart. Prettier has a format-on-save behaviour that seems to format after save on some file types. Typescript cmd-click definitions are broken, cmd-click import filepaths are broken. This is all fair. I've been using the beta on and off, and so f…

I hope so and I do root for them. But I remember Coda development felt sluggish compared to the pace we see in VS Code. And this 1.0 is something they feel is good enough to sell for $100, which IMO is wild.

Re: Nova by Panic

#150
I'm just happy to see Panic still exist. I loved their FTP client and most of their macOS "classic" software. Apparently the FTP client still exists actually :)
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