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Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by pmontra »

mcny wrote: post #33
pmontra wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally (1.5 years of usage) Gnome 3 doesn't crash.

The trick to not have gnome 3 crash (at least when I was on Ubuntu 18.04?) was to NOT connect it to heavy online accounts like if you have three google accounts all of which are perpetually teetering on the edge of your storage capacity of 15GB (or 17, if you did the security checkup) then the "factories" of Gnome will work themselves to death trying to synchronize everything. But we can't tell people "Just don't con…

I for sure don't connect it to anything. Nice to know it's calling for troubles to do it. Thanks.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by silon42 »

yrro wrote: post #39

I find the app-based window navigation in vanilla GNOME 3 rather frustrating, and try as I might, I just can't get comfortable navigating between what I think of as applications. This is because I have a few applications (Firefox, Terminal) that are really not applications in and of themselves; the applications are really Outlook, JIRA, Confluence, Slack, OpenShift (logged in as cluster admin), OpenShift (logged in a…

>I find the app-based window navigation in vanilla GNOME 3 rather frustrating, and try as I might, I just can't get comfortable navigating between what I think of as applications.

Same here. Gone from GNOME because of this.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by spiffytech »

boogies wrote: post #57
yrro wrote: post #39

I find the app-based window navigation in vanilla GNOME 3 rather frustrating, and try as I might, I just can't get comfortable navigating between what I think of as applications. This is because I have a few applications (Firefox, Terminal) that are really not applications in and of themselves; the applications are really Outlook, JIRA, Confluence, Slack, OpenShift (logged in as cluster admin), OpenShift (logged in a…

Doesn’t GNOME at least have a setting to change alt-tab to window- instead of app-based?

It does, but e.g. on Ubuntu you have to install an extra configurator tool to access that setting.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by kevinherron »

One thing I've learned from using i3wm and trying various other tiling shells/scripts over time is a stacking mode is crucial to my workflow.

It doesn't look like this has one. There's an outstanding PR to add stacking to Pop Shell [0] that I'm hopeful about.

[0] https://github.com/pop-os/shell

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by phkahler »

generalk wrote: post #34

Trying this out as it's typed. For background: I really want to love tools like i3 or awesome, but I always go back to Gnome because it juts gets stuff done. I liked Gnome 2, I like 3. So: just like the site says. Top is the taskbar, which also has a left icon for the current tiling pattern (fullscreen, tiled vertically, etc). The left side panel starts at the top-left with the search button that does the Gnome activ…

Thanks for pointing out that it supports floating windows. I use a 55" 4k monitor so I manually lay out my app windows and would hate tiling (only rarely used stuff goes up top and I drag those down when needed). I use and like gnome but there are a few thing I hate about it so I'll give this a try.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by ycombinete »

phkahler wrote: post #65
generalk wrote: post #34

Trying this out as it's typed. For background: I really want to love tools like i3 or awesome, but I always go back to Gnome because it juts gets stuff done. I liked Gnome 2, I like 3. So: just like the site says. Top is the taskbar, which also has a left icon for the current tiling pattern (fullscreen, tiled vertically, etc). The left side panel starts at the top-left with the search button that does the Gnome activ…

Thanks for pointing out that it supports floating windows. I use a 55" 4k monitor so I manually lay out my app windows and would hate tiling (only rarely used stuff goes up top and I drag those down when needed). I use and like gnome but there are a few thing I hate about it so I'll give this a try.

how far away from the screen do you sit?

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by ebiester »

phkahler wrote: post #65
generalk wrote: post #34

Trying this out as it's typed. For background: I really want to love tools like i3 or awesome, but I always go back to Gnome because it juts gets stuff done. I liked Gnome 2, I like 3. So: just like the site says. Top is the taskbar, which also has a left icon for the current tiling pattern (fullscreen, tiled vertically, etc). The left side panel starts at the top-left with the search button that does the Gnome activ…

Thanks for pointing out that it supports floating windows. I use a 55" 4k monitor so I manually lay out my app windows and would hate tiling (only rarely used stuff goes up top and I drag those down when needed). I use and like gnome but there are a few thing I hate about it so I'll give this a try.

Tiling people would create a group up on the top. When you want to bring it down, it's just a keyboard command away.

After going back to mac (for work reasons), It's been a painful experience adjusting to the lack of tiling.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by heresie-dabord »

> "Improve your user experience and get rid of the anarchy of traditional desktop workflows."

This usage of "anarchy" makes me wonder what is so satisfying to advocates of "tiling". I personally don't have a need for new windows to conform to a strict placement algorithm.

My usability requirement for new windows: a) open the window in a timely manner and make it distinct so I can identify it; b) don't fiddle with my visual field unnecessarily.

I use OpenBox. I make the "active" window distinct using a custom theme. I open what I need and hide the rest in a shaded window and/or virtual desktop until I need it. I find what I need in the menus.

(I won't debate the qualities of Gnome, but I prefer a lighter DE.)

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by wayneftw »

alex_duf wrote: post #31
cheph wrote: post #6

With how horrible Gnome 3 is to use I guess nothing can be worse, though I'm sure just like gnome 3 it will also randomly crash every 15 minutes.

What desktop/os do you use as your daily driver?

XFCE here, for the same reason - I've been trying out Gnome since the early 2000s and it's always been a bug-ridden, bloated pig. Meanwhile XFCE is simple, lightweight and it just works.
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