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Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by vladvasiliu »

mcny wrote: post #33
pmontra wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally (1.5 years of usage) Gnome 3 doesn't crash.

The trick to not have gnome 3 crash (at least when I was on Ubuntu 18.04?) was to NOT connect it to heavy online accounts like if you have three google accounts all of which are perpetually teetering on the edge of your storage capacity of 15GB (or 17, if you did the security checkup) then the "factories" of Gnome will work themselves to death trying to synchronize everything. But we can't tell people "Just don't con…

I've had it connected to Business Google Drive subscription with a ton (>1TB) of data on it. Never had any problems. Didn't ask it to sync locally though.

Don't know which exact version it was, but I was using Ubuntu 20.04 at the time.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by d3nj4l »

jsiepkes wrote: post #19
axilmar wrote: post #13

I don't like this at all. Scrolling is a 'no' in serious UI design, and tiling should be an option. The video is too fast to allow any actual evaluation of its offerings. The big buttons in the section 'find your tasks instantaneously' are not necessary. The gnome interface sucks big time and I don't see this as improvement.

> Scrolling is a 'no' in serious UI design Scrolling gives users a spatial feeling (ie. "what is where in relation to something else") in contrast to just magically letting things appear without animation or transition. There are plenty of UI designs which use scrolling. Sure you can debate whether they are a success or not but I've never head of "Scrolling is a 'no' in serious UI design". That sounds more like a per…

You can't put windows on top of each other that way.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by vladvasiliu »

yrro wrote: post #39

I find the app-based window navigation in vanilla GNOME 3 rather frustrating, and try as I might, I just can't get comfortable navigating between what I think of as applications. This is because I have a few applications (Firefox, Terminal) that are really not applications in and of themselves; the applications are really Outlook, JIRA, Confluence, Slack, OpenShift (logged in as cluster admin), OpenShift (logged in a…

You can kind of implement this in Gnome 3 by putting windows that go together on a workspace, the same way you do in i3. Hoewever, using workspaces in Gnome never felt as fluid as it does in i3.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by gtf21 »

mcny wrote: post #27
GekkePrutser wrote: post #2

Nice!!! This is the kind of thing I visit Hacker News for. I wonder how this compares with the Gnome tiling Add-on from Pop!_OS that is becoming very popular. But this material shell sounds like a much more holistic approach than just adding tiling to Gnome. I'll definitely try this out.

I have not looked into these things too much but I like how gnome keyring unlocks when I login to my fedora machine. After a simple initial setup, all my git commits are automatically signed by my gpg key. I don't even have to think about it. I haven't used this for anything serious but I think alternatives will need to achieve feature parity before I can seriously consider them. Kind of like how I go back to x as op…

You don't need to be using the full GNOME DE in order to use gnome-keyring and have it unlock [1].

[1]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME/Keyring#Using_the...

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by tssva »

marksbrown wrote: post #25
chabad360 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue of the gifs was actually discussed on discord. IIRC it was because the gifs would be to big in some cases.

That's a poor excuse given that a) mp4 support is pretty good these days and b) CSS already has responsive loading of assets. It's purely that to a man with a JS framework everything looks like a dynamic site. I highly recommend running Noscript to see how much of the Internet is broken because of this kind of nonsense.

Running Noscript doesn't show you how much of the internet is broken but instead is you purposefully breaking the internet for yourself.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by rvz »

scott31 wrote: post #15
monkin wrote: post #8

Sadly it’s a material design, one of the worst design frameworks out there. And, it is used contrary to its purpose on all possible levels without any understanding of it.

> Sadly it’s a material design, one of the worst shits out there. Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

But actually it's true. Before, It was once great on Android but now it has been abused on the Web, iOS, Windows, Mac, and Linux desktop apps, etc.

It is the new Bootstrap, but inconsistent and worse every where else apart from its use in Android apps.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by scoutt »

Can two windows overlap? Or are they just opened full-screen or inside a tile side-by-side?

If not, then I don't like that very much. For example the calculator: I don't want it to take 1/3 or 1/4 of the screen. It's like going back into a 35 years ago pre DESQview era.

Edit: nevermind. "In Material Shell windows are tiled. These means they are organised in a predictable way in which they do not overlap".

I guess I like my windows to be not predictable, whatever that means.

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by cheph »

alex_duf wrote: post #31
cheph wrote: post #6

With how horrible Gnome 3 is to use I guess nothing can be worse, though I'm sure just like gnome 3 it will also randomly crash every 15 minutes.

What desktop/os do you use as your daily driver?

XFCE on RHEL8 (work) and Fedora 32 (home)

Re: Material Shell – A modern desktop interface for GNOME

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Post by rtlfe »

dusted wrote: post #11

I think I'll just stick to i3 for now.

It's moderately intimidating to jump into i3 or xmonad if you haven't used them before. This looks like a friendlier way for more people to get exposed to tiling, but doesn't seem to offer anything compelling for people already comfortable with one of the others.
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