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The Tragic Death of the Flip

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Re: The Tragic Death of the Flip

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post #2

This article doesn't mention it directly, but after reading the bit about the FlipLive makes this more likely to me: the wrong people in Cisco finally realized what Flip might be able to do. Which is replace Cisco's teleconferencing enterprise business. And doing so even a little bit would probably cost them a pretty penny, so they're dumping it to protect what they see as their "core" business.

There was never any risk of v1 of FlipLive cannibalizing the teleconferencing business - it was one-way only - no way for the 'viewers' to send a stream back to the publisher's camera. BTW - I wrote some of web software (the ActionScript) for FlipLive.

can you explain some of the thinking behind the flip slide? It was bigger and didn't add much function. Thanks

Re: The Tragic Death of the Flip

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I don't see what's so tragic about the death of a consumer device that don't really sell.

Do you also think we'd be better off without the many van Gogh paintings that didn't sell during his lifetime?

Well if they were mass-market prints that cost a lot of money to make and didn't sell well enough to recoup their losses, I certainly wouldn't complain too much when they were cancelled because they were unaffordable.

Re: The Tragic Death of the Flip

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More than 40 hours of video uploaded to youtube every second of every day. A good portion of it is people just sitting in their bedroom talking about all the stupid shit they just bought at Target. And if they could record and upload in one easy step, that's a huge market right there.

Yes, but they didnt have to spend $200 on a new device to do it - they just used the camera built into their $400 laptop

True, or buy a $15 webcam

Re: The Tragic Death of the Flip

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I don't see what's so tragic about the death of a consumer device that don't really sell.

I haven't seen any evidence that it didn't sell -- mostly, it appears to be the victim of entering Cisco's maw.

It's highly unlikely, at least to my mind, that Flip would grow to the point of taking over the world, but it's easy to imagine that it could've kept going for a long time if Cisco hadn't axed it.

Re: The Tragic Death of the Flip

#29

I don't see what's so tragic about the death of a consumer device that don't really sell.

From the linked article above:

"Flips now represent an astonishing 35 percent of the camcorder market. They’re the No. 1 bestselling camcorder on Amazon. They’re still selling fast."

Re: The Tragic Death of the Flip

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There’s a second part of the tragedy, too, something that nobody knows. That new Flip that the product manager showed me was astonishing. It was called FlipLive, and it added one powerful new feature to the standard Flip: live broadcasting to the Internet. That is, when you’re in a Wi-Fi hot spot, the entire world can see what you’re filming. You can post a link to Twitter or Facebook, or send an e-mail link to frien…

While that is nice, couldn't (and isn't) this possible on any smart phone with 3G/4G and a video camera?

Yes, http://qik.com/ (not affiliated, not a user, but it seems to do this).
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