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Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by joshgachnang »

Tiktaalik wrote: post #173
cliverani wrote: post #73

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I think Peloton's largely upper-middle class target market that live in the suburbs or cities can find solid bike trails using Apple maps. But you're right, it's too early to jump to conclusions.

Given the cycling unfriendly design of most NA cities, using a Peloton instead of an outdoor bike ride seems like a sensible safety measure to not get killed by a distracted SUV driver.

Yup, I lived in Chicago only a mile from the Lakeshore Bike Path and almost never used it after a few run ins with distracted drivers and almost being hit. I use my (not Peloton) stationary and Peloton Digital all the time though.

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Post by heartbreak »

biztos wrote: post #200
newscracker wrote: post #46

I like the idea of Apple Fitness+. That it provides an integrated experience with the watch and another device (iPhone/iPad/Apple TV) is exactly what I’ve been waiting for all these years! No need to create yet another online account on a service that may share (or sell or probably lose) my workout and health information. The workout recommendations are computed on-device, and the data stays on the devices (health da…

I would prefer the market be more diverse. I spend a fair amount of time on fitness and haven't found any tracking app that floats my boat -- Apple's being especially awful from a UX perspective in my opinion -- and I'd really like to think that if I come up with a better idea, I won't have to subsidize Tim Cook's latest vertical takeover with 30% of my indie revenue, or worse: my customers' indie revenue. At the ris…

Your personal trainer doesn't have to pay a 30% cut to Apple.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by lmedinas »

bitxbit wrote: post #186

I think Apple ran out of ideas guys.

i doubt... even if this service is a flop most likely it will still be profitable and again Apple is on the way to smash the competition in their own walled garden.

This goes into straight competition with 80% of the fitness apps has it provides yoga, HIIT, bike etc... etc... fully integrated into Apple devices plus if you buy the new Watch you get 3 months for free. Bingo.

How is Apple running out of ideas to get even more money on services ?

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Post by freewilly1040 »

yreg wrote: post #194
freewilly1040 wrote: post #162

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Sure, but now them adding this product means we have yet another vertical where Apple has given itself an anticompetitive advantage over competitors.

The parent comment suggested that the conditions tightened, when in fact they loosened.

The parent comment doesn't suggest that the conditions tightened. They are merely calling out that the loosening does not cover this new first party product, and suggests this might not be a coincidence.

As this thread demonstrates, the maneuver was quite successful, if the idea was to give the impression they are becoming less anticompetitive rather than more so!

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Post by hevelvarik »

ogre_codes wrote: post #177
jacobwilliamroy wrote: post #103

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Do you like the idea of Apple owning the operating system you use, the computer it runs on, all the apps running on that operating system, the entire network stack, all of the network services, the gym you visit, the money you use, the school you attend, the church where you worship, the food that you buy, the place where you work, the hospital where you die? Can't you see where they're going with this?

> Do you like the idea of Apple owning... This is what bothers me. I think there is a lot of evidence Apple's claims that they keep as much of this data on-device as possible. Even so, Apple's increasing dominance in certain aspects of my life bothers me. After watching Google progress from being a company I loved and respected into a gross corporation, I'm concerned will eventually follow suit. Even if you assume Ap…

Honest question, when was Google any different than they are now. What would have been their business model?

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Post by antris »

untog wrote: post #206
antris wrote: post #201

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Why not? If Apple buys Peloton, they also get all their staff and offices. The existing staff can continue working on their existing products just as before, while transitioning to Apple, no?

If Apple believe they can make a competitive product to Peloton (and I imagine they do) then the additional staff and offices aren't necessarily a good thing. To put it another way: why should Apple buy Peloton? Apple itself is already a premium brand with huge awareness, so a buy for brand reasons isn't that persuasive. Peloton has a whole range of hardware but none of it is compatible with existing Apple hardware,…

I have no idea if Apple should buy Peloton or not, I was just objecting to your reasoning. It's completely normal to get acquired by another company and keep on working on the existing products as is, that's all I'm saying.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by bredren »

freewilly1040 wrote: post #214
yreg wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The parent comment suggested that the conditions tightened, when in fact they loosened.

The parent comment doesn't suggest that the conditions tightened. They are merely calling out that the loosening does not cover this new first party product, and suggests this might not be a coincidence. As this thread demonstrates, the maneuver was quite successful, if the idea was to give the impression they are becoming less anticompetitive rather than more so!

>rather than more so!

This is a very unusual product area for Apple. This end presumes the service will be a success.

There is many a slip between the cup and the sip.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by [deleted] »

threatofrain wrote: post #140
88840-8855 wrote: post #91

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I disagree. YET ANOTHER feature that is linked to ONE SINGLE account. If apple decides to block your account, everything is gone. This happened some time ago to my microsoft account - everything gone. And why? Because I have uploaded (automatically) a nude picture of my gf to their cloud, it was detected by their algorithm and my account was locked. I had to communicate with microsoft by a PAPER LETTER(!) to understa…

Are nude photos not permitted on iCloud? With the ubiquity of iPhones, it's difficult to believe iCloud isn't filled with nude photos.

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Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by realityking »

mike_d wrote: post #148
88840-8855 wrote: post #91

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I disagree. YET ANOTHER feature that is linked to ONE SINGLE account. If apple decides to block your account, everything is gone. This happened some time ago to my microsoft account - everything gone. And why? Because I have uploaded (automatically) a nude picture of my gf to their cloud, it was detected by their algorithm and my account was locked. I had to communicate with microsoft by a PAPER LETTER(!) to understa…

Was your girlfriend of age? To the best of my knowledge the only thing Microsoft searches for and actions in user uploaded files is content that hits against PhotoDNA. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/photodna

From what I understand, PhotoDNA is used to recognize _known_ images of child exploitation. It will never recognize any pictures a user takes themselves, even if they show child exploitation, unless that photo’s hash makes it into Microsoft’s database.
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