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Re: Apple Fitness+

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I wouldn't want to be Peleton, Mirror, or one of those similar companies. Is it worth the extra $1000+ up front and $30+ monthly for the Peleton and Mirror trainers to mention your name?

$1000 up front? The new generation Peloton bike costs $2495, the previous generation costs $1895, and the treadmill costs $4295.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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> For usage with iPad, Fitness+ requires iPad Pro, iPad (5th generation or later), iPad mini 4 or later, iPad Air 2, or iPad Air (3rd generation). Fitness+ is supported on Apple TV 4K and Apple TV HD. So if you don't have an Apple TV, you can't watch on a TV? That's a non starter for me (Peloton customer), seems a bit rubbish to be exercising in my living room and not using the TV to display the class.

It should work with AirPlay I'd imagine

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Indoor bikes are more consistently grueling, not everyone has ideal workout terrain for a bicycle. Lot of flat roads.

I think Peloton's largely upper-middle class target market that live in the suburbs or cities can find solid bike trails using Apple maps. But you're right, it's too early to jump to conclusions.

Given the cycling unfriendly design of most NA cities, using a Peloton instead of an outdoor bike ride seems like a sensible safety measure to not get killed by a distracted SUV driver.

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> For usage with iPad, Fitness+ requires iPad Pro, iPad (5th generation or later), iPad mini 4 or later, iPad Air 2, or iPad Air (3rd generation). Fitness+ is supported on Apple TV 4K and Apple TV HD. So if you don't have an Apple TV, you can't watch on a TV? That's a non starter for me (Peloton customer), seems a bit rubbish to be exercising in my living room and not using the TV to display the class.

It should work with AirPlay I'd imagine

I have no way to AirPlay to my TV as far as I know, because I don't have Apple TV. Are there other ways to?

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I disagree. YET ANOTHER feature that is linked to ONE SINGLE account. If apple decides to block your account, everything is gone. This happened some time ago to my microsoft account - everything gone. And why? Because I have uploaded (automatically) a nude picture of my gf to their cloud, it was detected by their algorithm and my account was locked. I had to communicate with microsoft by a PAPER LETTER(!) to understa…

Was your girlfriend of age? To the best of my knowledge the only thing Microsoft searches for and actions in user uploaded files is content that hits against PhotoDNA. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/photodna

My gf is 29.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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So you have to pay for a watch that collects your data? Furthermore the watch is likely full of proprietary chips - which is fine if you could buy those. If "your" watch goes bad, only Apple will be able to repair it and for sure their charge you adequately. And you give your data for free.

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I like the idea of Apple Fitness+. That it provides an integrated experience with the watch and another device (iPhone/iPad/Apple TV) is exactly what I’ve been waiting for all these years! No need to create yet another online account on a service that may share (or sell or probably lose) my workout and health information. The workout recommendations are computed on-device, and the data stays on the devices (health da…

Do you like the idea of Apple owning the operating system you use, the computer it runs on, all the apps running on that operating system, the entire network stack, all of the network services, the gym you visit, the money you use, the school you attend, the church where you worship, the food that you buy, the place where you work, the hospital where you die? Can't you see where they're going with this?

> Do you like the idea of Apple owning...

This is what bothers me. I think there is a lot of evidence Apple's claims that they keep as much of this data on-device as possible. Even so, Apple's increasing dominance in certain aspects of my life bothers me.

After watching Google progress from being a company I loved and respected into a gross corporation, I'm concerned will eventually follow suit. Even if you assume Apple's current management are a bunch of great guys, in 10 years Cook might get replaced by a corrupt douchebag.

It's concerning. But at the same time I appreciate the previous posters view as well, I'd rather not have my information painted across dozens of small companies who are easily acquired.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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While I'm certainly annoyed that this is a blatant ripoff of so many services out there already - more than anything, it just looks like a real snoozefest of a product. Beyond that, where does the App Store insanity stop? Is Apple going to pull a Fortnite and kick exercise apps off next for "duplicating core Apple products"?

Why would Apple kickoff competing products that are abiding by AppStore rules? It's profitable for them when purchases or subscriptions are made... and hosting these competing products makes their AppStore space more valuable to boot.

No doubt they'll get kicked off as well if they try to circumvent the agreed payment medium

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Was your girlfriend of age? To the best of my knowledge the only thing Microsoft searches for and actions in user uploaded files is content that hits against PhotoDNA. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/photodna

Does it matter? As a parent I might upload a private nude picture of my kids which is perfectly fine.

It is no longer private if you upload it to cloud.

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It would have been nice if Google hadn’t betrayed their promise of Android being open. Then we’d have had a good alternative.

Google didn't betray their promise. Android is open source and Apple not Microsoft have open sourced their operating system.

With each new release, more and more parts of Android are reliant on proprietary Google APIs. It is known.

If you remove everything Google from Android 19, you'll be surprised how little it can do.

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