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IGDA about the Amazon Android Appstore: just say no.

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Re: IGDA about the Amazon Android Appstore: just say no.

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I understand the ire, but still... IGDA can pool resources, and are in perfect position to start their very own branded Android store where they can set the rules as they see fit.

No reason why a game specific store shouldn't exist. If the user goes the distance to install the Amazon store, chances are they will install another.

Re: IGDA about the Amazon Android Appstore: just say no.

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Amazon steeply discounts a large chunk of its Appstore catalog (imagine: "our top 100-rated games are all 75% off!"). Some developers will probably win in this scenario, but some developers -- most likely, those near the bottom of the list -- will lose, not gaining enough sales to offset the loss in revenue per sale. Amazon benefits the most, because it captures all the customer goodwill generated by such a promotion…

That doesn't match Amazon's behavior. If they thought they could optimize prices for the benefit of app developers, I would expect them to offer the option. "Is setting your price a headache? Let our team of specialists do it for you!" Over time, as devs saw the benefits accrue to those who opted-in, more and more would switch to Amazon's model.

The fact that they require price control, as a condition of doing business, tells me that Amazon expects this policy to hurt developers.

Re: IGDA about the Amazon Android Appstore: just say no.

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How did they close it? This is how all my iOS apps generate revenue. They're all free with In-App Purchases. It works great. Also, why would anyone consider this a "loophole"?

Apple are taking their 30% cut, right? I'm not sure how Amazon's terms interact with in-app purchases, but presumably they've thought of this. If the NYT sells an app with bundled one-year subscription, Apple gets 30%; if the NYT sells (well, sold) an app and a separate one-year subscription, Apple gets nothing. If the original app is sufficiently useless, this "in-app purchase" is clearly just a way of not paying Ap…

Either you misunderstood IDGA's letter or you misunderstood gacba's comment, or both. None of this has anything to do with the 30% cut they take, so I'm not sure why you're mentioning that.

The complaint is in regards to Amazon controlling the cost of the app rather than the developer controlling the cost of the app. That's all. Gacba was simply saying that if you don't want Amazon controlling the cost of your app, then make it free and sell in-app purchases. Since Amazon doesn't control how much you sell your in-app purchases for, they lose total control over the cost of your app and the developer gains the control back.

Re: IGDA about the Amazon Android Appstore: just say no.

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post #61

I understand the ire, but still... IGDA can pool resources, and are in perfect position to start their very own branded Android store where they can set the rules as they see fit. No reason why a game specific store shouldn't exist. If the user goes the distance to install the Amazon store, chances are they will install another.

It's not a bad idea. Google's choice of game categories in the Market is bizarre, to say the least. There are a few highly specific categories which don't particularly represent popular genres on any platform, and everything else gets dumped in "Arcade & Action".

It's a total misunderstanding of the market, and it does quite a poor job of selling games (at least from a customer's perspective), which is the thing you really want in an app store.

Re: IGDA about the Amazon Android Appstore: just say no.

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Amazon does however have an incentive to maximize revenue and there is a lower bound to what a developer gets (a percentage of the list price), even if Amazon promotes it for free, so Amazon loses money on that. I think Amazon is better at optimizing pricing than most game developers are, so I expect this to improve revenue for both Amazon and the game developers. But only time will tell for sure. Panicking is not th…

That's definitely true in the long term, but while I don't believe that Amazon is necessarily going to abuse the power they ask for just because they have it, heavily discounting apps at the developer's expense is a great way to get traction for a new app market that most people haven't heard of.

For many of the discounted apps, those that depend on the purchase revenue (vs. ad-based) and that might be fad, or temporarily popular, this could effectively kill them off in the name of helping Amazon.

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