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Apple Fitness+
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#62Apple just took a huge swing at Peloton and at home fitness startups. Why cycle in place at home with a Peloton instructor, when you can cycle outside with a Fitness+ instructor? Why limit yourself to your stationary Peloton bike at home, when you can use a stationary bike anywhere? Apple can and probability will beat out Lulu Lemon's Mirror on price using motion capture on an AppleTV smartTV or Ipad. Only startup th…
Indoor bikes are more consistently grueling, not everyone has ideal workout terrain for a bicycle. Lot of flat roads.
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#63They could have made this service a couple of years ago. Why now?
I don't think it's a coincidence they announced this now in the midst of COVID. Apple has privileged AppStore data which it can use to identify trends. Then it can just throw a pile of money at making an even better product, with premium integration in the Apple ecosystem, and finally destroy the competition.
I guess it can be argued this may be better for the customer.
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#64RIP local fitness instructors. Already battered by the pandemic, a lot of them have been successfully transitioning to an online only business model. This will make it harder.
I don’t think this would affect personal, live fitness instructors. Although it looks the same on the surface, the value proposition is very different (as is the cost).
You don’t make the same kind of human connection when the communication is one-way.
Put it this way: if internet streaming was going to kill off fitness instructors, it would have happened already. Apple isn’t doing something new here, they’re just putting their own spin on it and vertically integrating it.
Companies doing similar services might have more to worry about, though I think there is a lot of room to grow in this market, and i think it’s “niche-y” by nature, so I think there’s probably plenty of room for competitors.
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#65I wouldn't want to be Peleton, Mirror, or one of those similar companies. Is it worth the extra $1000+ up front and $30+ monthly for the Peleton and Mirror trainers to mention your name?
I tend to agree, but its always amazing to me how much that seems to matter to viewers on twitch. The entire streamer business model centers around people paying to have someone say their name.
its always amazing to me how much that seems to matter to viewers on twitch
It's like when you're at a Cheap Trick concert and the singer shouts, "Hello, Madison! Are you ready to rock?!"
Hopefully, the concert is actually in Madison, and isn't in Hoboken.
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#66While I'm certainly annoyed that this is a blatant ripoff of so many services out there already - more than anything, it just looks like a real snoozefest of a product. Beyond that, where does the App Store insanity stop? Is Apple going to pull a Fortnite and kick exercise apps off next for "duplicating core Apple products"?
>Is Apple going to pull a Fortnite and kick exercise apps off next for "duplicating core Apple products"? That's not what Fortnite got kicked out for, and I think it is unfair to pretend otherwise. Also, they didn't kick out Spotify or other music streaming services after introducing Apple Music, so I don't see that happening here either.
Yes, I know that’s not explicitly what Fortnite was kicked off for. But let’s be honest here and look at Apple’s long history of anticompetitive behavior - that’s the core concern here, and Apple has shown a clear willingness to disadvantage 3rd party competitors.
Sure, Spotify is on the App Store - but when will I be able to download music and play it directly from my Watch with Spotify? Likely never - Apple simply will not allow that, while hypocritically allowing it with Apple Music.
So let’s not pretend - Apple cares about Apple first and second, and everyone else third.
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#67So this must be why last week's updated "App Store Review Guidelines" explicitly excluded "one-to-many realtime experiences". Third party fitness apps need to fork over 30% to Apple, while they launch their own first party competitor.
3.1.3(d) Person-to-Person Experiences: If your app enables the purchase of realtime person-to-person experiences between two individuals (for example tutoring students, medical consultations, real estate tours, or fitness training), you may use purchase methods other than in-app purchase to collect those payments. One-to-few and one-to-many realtime experiences must use in-app purchase.
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#68Apple just took a huge swing at Peloton and at home fitness startups. Why cycle in place at home with a Peloton instructor, when you can cycle outside with a Fitness+ instructor? Why limit yourself to your stationary Peloton bike at home, when you can use a stationary bike anywhere? Apple can and probability will beat out Lulu Lemon's Mirror on price using motion capture on an AppleTV smartTV or Ipad. Only startup th…
People cycle in place because it’s more convenient than going outside. Not everyone lives near bike trails where you can continuously cycle without having to worry about cars and traffic lights. Even on bike trails, speed is limited to 10mph so I don’t how you can do hiit workout and keep it below 10mph.
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#69What I dream of is a health monitor watch that's built from open hardware and gives me complete control over and ownership of my data. I don't trust any profit-driven company, even Apple, with such private information. EDIT: thanks to obenn, who pointed me towards [1]. Still in development, but looks promising. [1] https://www.pine64.org/pinetime/
I trust Apple... enough, to use their Health app, but I don't like the watch. An Apple Watch, without the screen and apps, which can store data and just sync with your phone next time their in range of each other would be nice. If you don't where a watch, and don't carry your phone with you everywhere, there doesn't seem to be any good fitness tracker, which also integrate with Apples Health app.
I want this too, but I guess the folks in Cupertino would rather upsell us a watch.
I'm trying out the Oura ring right now. It's really nice, especially for sleep tracking, but it doesn't fill up my rings in Apple Health the way my Watch does. It writes calories, for instance, to the "Active Energy" category, not the "Activity" one which corresponds to the ring.
Really annoying. Apple needs to figure out if it's a luxury watch company or a fitness watch company, or design specific products for both of those categories. Nobody works out with a Rolex on and eventually push will come to shove.
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#70Reminds me of all those Jane Fonda fitness videos littering homes in the 80's ... if they can somehow provide tailored experiences via AR/ML then it might work.