Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Apple Event 2020

apple.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

71–80 of 118 posts

Re: Apple Event 2020

#71

Post by DonaldPShimoda »

ganoushoreilly wrote: post #42

removing power adapter.. to save the environment. Also you have to buy it as an accessory for $30+ ....

If I remember right, Apple Watch is the most popular smart watch on the market — meaning many people have had one already. Those people don't need a new adapter. It's like the iPhone: if I already have one, I don't need another adapter (lord knows I have enough of them).

It's definitely not great for new customers though, and it absolutely should not be $30, but for people like me it's a positive move forward to reduce waste.

Re: Apple Event 2020

#72

Post by dkarp »

DonaldPShimoda wrote: post #61
slg wrote: post #45

It is very Apple to market a cost cutting move of not including power adapters with their products as an environmental decision. Like it certainly does help the environment, but does anyone actually believe that is the motivating factor?

They've spent a lot of money aggressively pursuing environmental concerns before many of their competitors (like renewable power, carbon neutrality, recycling programs, etc.). While I can appreciate the reduction in cost likely was a factor, I wouldn't doubt that the environmental aspect was also a genuine concern. Their ideal customer is somebody who upgrades devices frequently and then participates in the trade-in…

Step 1 of reducing your environmental impact is reducing your consumption. If Apple really cared about the environment, then they wouldn't encourage a new phone every year when a phone can last for 4 years.

Reduce, reuse and recycle.

Re: Apple Event 2020

#73

Post by DonaldPShimoda »

suyash wrote: post #46

What are the exact differences between Series 3 vs Series 6 ?

Off the top of my head: always-on display, additional sensors (compass, blood oxygen, ECG, more advanced accelerometer for fall detection), higher resolution display, different speaker system I think, slightly different form factor, uhhh... that's all I've got immediately but I think there's a bit more.

Re: Apple Event 2020

#74

Post by mercer »

dkarp wrote: post #72
DonaldPShimoda wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've spent a lot of money aggressively pursuing environmental concerns before many of their competitors (like renewable power, carbon neutrality, recycling programs, etc.). While I can appreciate the reduction in cost likely was a factor, I wouldn't doubt that the environmental aspect was also a genuine concern. Their ideal customer is somebody who upgrades devices frequently and then participates in the trade-in…

Step 1 of reducing your environmental impact is reducing your consumption. If Apple really cared about the environment, then they wouldn't encourage a new phone every year when a phone can last for 4 years. Reduce, reuse and recycle.

I think nobody getting a high-end phone can argue in any way that they're environmentally conscious, at least in that area of their life.

Re: Apple Event 2020

#75

Post by jasonv »

dkarp wrote: post #72
DonaldPShimoda wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've spent a lot of money aggressively pursuing environmental concerns before many of their competitors (like renewable power, carbon neutrality, recycling programs, etc.). While I can appreciate the reduction in cost likely was a factor, I wouldn't doubt that the environmental aspect was also a genuine concern. Their ideal customer is somebody who upgrades devices frequently and then participates in the trade-in…

Step 1 of reducing your environmental impact is reducing your consumption. If Apple really cared about the environment, then they wouldn't encourage a new phone every year when a phone can last for 4 years. Reduce, reuse and recycle.

Do they encourage people to buy a new phone every year?

I don't think most people get a new phone every year, hence the "is this worth the upgrade?" Conventionally speaking, most tech reviewers tend to suggest that the latest model usually isn't worth the upgrade if you have the last model, and only in some cases is it a compelling upgrade from two releases ago.

Release a new phone every year isn't the same thing as encouraging everyone to upgrade every year.

Re: Apple Event 2020

#76

Post by mrkstu »

innagadadavida wrote: post #59
GiorgioG wrote: post #18

Apple Watch Series 6...totally uninspired update. I was hoping we might get a glucose monitor/sensor, instead we get a blood oxygen sensor. Apple's just coasting at this point. I was considering getting the iPhone 12, but at this point I'm expecting a similar dud launch next month from Apple, so I'd rather give my money to Nvidia for an RTX 3080. Stop mailing it in Apple.

At this time at least, measuring blood oxygen has more consumer demand and impact than measuring glucose.

More than 100 million Americans have diabetes or pre-diabetes. Numbers are huge and more importantly the feature (glucose monitoring) is much more critical to their health.

Re: Apple Event 2020

#77

Post by DonaldPShimoda »

dkarp wrote: post #72
DonaldPShimoda wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've spent a lot of money aggressively pursuing environmental concerns before many of their competitors (like renewable power, carbon neutrality, recycling programs, etc.). While I can appreciate the reduction in cost likely was a factor, I wouldn't doubt that the environmental aspect was also a genuine concern. Their ideal customer is somebody who upgrades devices frequently and then participates in the trade-in…

Step 1 of reducing your environmental impact is reducing your consumption. If Apple really cared about the environment, then they wouldn't encourage a new phone every year when a phone can last for 4 years. Reduce, reuse and recycle.

Mm that's the point of the trade-in program! They even did a whole video showing LIAM (I think), the robot that disassembles old iPhones so the parts can be reused in new iPhones.

I can't find it these days because their website has gotten more and more full of information, but they used to have a page that specifically said they had a plan to eventually manufacture all iPhones from old iPhone parts.

If you participate in Apple's trade-in programs, consumption isn't an issue. They have a greater capability to successfully recycle the components than anybody else will (e.g., if you send your used phone to some other place to be disassembled).

Re: Apple Event 2020

#78

Post by mercer »

jasonv wrote: post #75
dkarp wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Step 1 of reducing your environmental impact is reducing your consumption. If Apple really cared about the environment, then they wouldn't encourage a new phone every year when a phone can last for 4 years. Reduce, reuse and recycle.

Do they encourage people to buy a new phone every year? I don't think most people get a new phone every year, hence the "is this worth the upgrade?" Conventionally speaking, most tech reviewers tend to suggest that the latest model usually isn't worth the upgrade if you have the last model, and only in some cases is it a compelling upgrade from two releases ago. Release a new phone every year isn't the same thing as…

Anecdotally, very few people I know get the newest phone. In fact, most of them tend to get second-hand phones that are at least a generation or two behind. That said, these are generally on the middle- to lower-middle-class individuals.

I'm a geek and I could afford buying the latest phones, but in practice I almost always get a phone at least 2 generations behind.

That said, looking at people in town, there's a significant number who do get the latest model. I always wonder how they can afford it.

Post reply on HN