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Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke

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Re: Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke

#13

This is "proper" giving away, not that fake celebrity donations of "I donated 200k of my 40M money, see how charitable I am"? And then those celebrities say "You should also donate Joe Doe, we must ALL be charitable". Meanwhile Joe is in debt and cannot even afford to eat non-pesticide laden food while the celebrity retain 99% of his $$$$.

It is quite the paradigm indeed.

Like you said most people don't really have any extra income. They have a mortgage. Their retirement is heavily underfunded. Kids future school is not paid for.

Then there are people that have 100% of everything paid for and already have more than they will ever need... not to mention they can grow their money way quicker than the people who need it.. Yeah, it's pretty easy to be "generous" in that situation because it's literally extra money just sitting around doing nothing but making more money.

edit: wow, downvote me and op for this? Must be by the HN 400k engineers without a family who don't understand what the problem is

Re: Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke

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post #6

This is a role model I can actually appreciate. I can't figure out why this is the first time I've heard of him. I've seen lots of news about people buying expensive shit, but the fact that this has never come to my attention is a horrible indicator of what the media chooses to report on.

I suggest that it does not align with consumerism/capitalist ideologies which are used in the feedback loop to promote themselves/further substantiate their existence and influence in culture. Philanthropy is great, but to some extent I think the argument that properly taxing such capitalistic gains could have greater effect on society when properly used by the system that can support massive scale projects (i.e. the government).

Re: Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke

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Some questions lingered in the back of my mind after I read this article:

- How much to employees at Duty Free Shoppers (DFS) make? Is their healthcare fully covered? Do they have generous paid time off and access to higher education for themselves and their children? Was any of his fortune used to give back to the employees whose labor built his wealth in the first place?

- Does this dude realize how difficult it is to get into Cornell compared to when he went there on the GI bill? Giving to Cornell seems counter-productive to me. Giving a bunch of Ivy League jocks more resources doesn’t seem like an equity promoting endeavor.

Not to diminish his other accomplishments. Still, philanthropists get to choose who to include and exclude. Ideally, it wouldn’t have been possible for this guy to amass 8 billion dollars of wealth in the first place - it would have been properly taxed and invested into our communities equitably.

Re: Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke

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post #6

This is a role model I can actually appreciate. I can't figure out why this is the first time I've heard of him. I've seen lots of news about people buying expensive shit, but the fact that this has never come to my attention is a horrible indicator of what the media chooses to report on.

The 2012 Forbes story: https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2012/09/18/chuck-...

Biography from 2013: https://www.powells.com/book/billionaire-who-wasnt-how-chuck...

The last time he was reported as giving away "the last of his fortune", in the NY Times, 2017: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/nyregion/james-bond-of-ph...

NY Times at $1B left in 2014: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/01/your-money/a-billion-to-s...

At $1.5B left: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/08/nyregion/a-billionaire-ph...

NYT on his secrecy in 2007: https://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/nyregion/26about.html

Series when he was outed in 1997 while trying to remain anonymous: https://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/02/business/lone-rangers-of-..., https://www.nytimes.com/1997/01/26/weekinreview/they-gave-mi..., https://www.nytimes.com/1997/01/24/nyregion/quiet-man-with-b..., https://www.nytimes.com/1997/01/23/nyregion/a-man-who-repaid..., https://www.nytimes.com/1997/01/23/nyregion/he-gave-away-600..., https://www.nytimes.com/1997/01/23/nyregion/giving-a-fortune...

Re: Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke

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I'd love to know what Chuck Feeney thinks of Bill Gates

> In February 2011, Feeney became a signatory to The Giving Pledge. In his letter to Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, the founders of The Giving Pledge, Feeney writes, "I cannot think of a more personally rewarding and appropriate use of wealth than to give while one is living—to personally devote oneself to meaningful efforts to improve the human condition. More importantly, today's needs are so great and varied that intelligent philanthropic support and positive interventions can have greater value and impact today than if they are delayed when the needs are greater."

Re: Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke

#18
Interesting! I wonder if he tracked outcomes so we can see what the result is of all this. He seems pretty happy with how his charitable "investments" have done.

That data could reveal which things are the most effective things to operate charitably in terms of increasing human happiness.

That's something I really like about Jack Dorsey's approach. I get to follow along and see what works.

Re: Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke

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> Where did $8 billion go: health, science, education, and social action

Other than science, those are some very bloated and inefficient causes. $1 billion to Cornell? Aren't most of the prestigious universities already swimming in billions of dollars of endowments? He can do what he wants of course, but it would have been nicer if the money was targeted to long shot bets--that only a super rich person could fund--rather than normal things are already well funded through taxes.

Re: Chuck Feeney Is Now Officially Broke

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I'd love to know what Chuck Feeney thinks of Bill Gates

> In February 2011, Feeney became a signatory to The Giving Pledge. In his letter to Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, the founders of The Giving Pledge, Feeney writes, "I cannot think of a more personally rewarding and appropriate use of wealth than to give while one is living—to personally devote oneself to meaningful efforts to improve the human condition. More importantly, today's needs are so great and varied that…

I'd love to know what Feeney thinks of Gates in 2020
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