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The Stalinist Trial of Julian Assange

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Re: The Stalinist Trial of Julian Assange

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The phrase "Stalinist trial" normally refers to either a staged trial [1] or to a trial-by-three without due process [2]. Which of these applies to Julian Assange? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Trials [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NKVD_troika

"the judicial authorities have already determined the guilt, and/or innocence, of the defendant. The actual trial has as its only goal the presentation of both the accusation and the verdict to the public so they will serve as both an impressive example and a warning to other would-be dissidents or transgressors"

Re: The Stalinist Trial of Julian Assange

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post #7

People like him should be honored and if not considered heroes, at least be remembered as people who standed for freedom. Instead they go under trial and their life ruined. This is our world.

Wikileaks had such a strong Western bias that it hurt democratic movements in third world countries. So no, it's not that black and white.

They just publish information they receive. They can't publish what they don't have. How are they biased?

Re: The Stalinist Trial of Julian Assange

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Every time this comes up on traditional media I scream at TV How on earth can you be guilty of TREASON of a country you are NOT A CITIZEN Of? Can anyone explain this twisted logic to me how an Australian can be prosecuted for treason of US?

Re: The Stalinist Trial of Julian Assange

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post #12

The phrase "Stalinist trial" normally refers to either a staged trial [1] or to a trial-by-three without due process [2]. Which of these applies to Julian Assange? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Trials [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NKVD_troika

"the judicial authorities have already determined the guilt, and/or innocence, of the defendant. The actual trial has as its only goal the presentation of both the accusation and the verdict to the public so they will serve as both an impressive example and a warning to other would-be dissidents or transgressors"

The article has no such quote. And if it did, it would still have to back it up, didn't it? So far it looks like a bunch of overstatements without any real substance. E.g. "The extradition hearing in London this week is the final act of an Anglo-American campaign to bury Julian Assange." How can a mere extradition hearing be the final act?

Re: The Stalinist Trial of Julian Assange

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"the judicial authorities have already determined the guilt, and/or innocence, of the defendant. The actual trial has as its only goal the presentation of both the accusation and the verdict to the public so they will serve as both an impressive example and a warning to other would-be dissidents or transgressors"

The article has no such quote. And if it did, it would still have to back it up, didn't it? So far it looks like a bunch of overstatements without any real substance. E.g. "The extradition hearing in London this week is the final act of an Anglo-American campaign to bury Julian Assange." How can a mere extradition hearing be the final act?

This is a transcript of a public address. The time the speaker had was likely limited, and the target were people already aware of the details.

Re: The Stalinist Trial of Julian Assange

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post #10
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wikileaks had such a strong Western bias that it hurt democratic movements in third world countries. So no, it's not that black and white.

I have to admit I don't know a lot about the history of Wikileaks (I was still in school when they started going after Assange), but how did it hurt democratic movements in developing countries?

The Diplomatic Cables releases ended up on the internet unredacted, leading US officials to say it caused great damage to our worldwide democracy spreading commitment.

How much damage it caused is unclear, and it's hard to look at the releases and determine "spreading democracy" is actually a US ambition.

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