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How Much Does a Software Developer in Portland Earn?

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Re: How Much Does a Software Developer in Portland Earn?

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I would say the same as you would get anywhere else +/-10%.

There have been a lot of threads recently around salary. I'm pretty sure it is entirely based on your willingness to negotiate to the best of your abilities. Yes, you need to be willing to step up to the plate and negotiate.

Thankfully we work in a very mobile and fluid industry. I know people who live in Oklahoma and work for well known startups that get paid a very competitive wage even for NYC standards. Location is becoming less of a factor in the war for talent.

Re: How Much Does a Software Developer in Portland Earn?

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I would say the same as you would get anywhere else +/-10%. There have been a lot of threads recently around salary. I'm pretty sure it is entirely based on your willingness to negotiate to the best of your abilities. Yes, you need to be willing to step up to the plate and negotiate. Thankfully we work in a very mobile and fluid industry. I know people who live in Oklahoma and work for well known startups that get pa…

When I was looking at moving to Portland about 18 months ago, companies there wanted me to take a 40+% cut in pay versus what I'm making in San Francisco. Granted, I only talked to a couple of companies, so maybe I just picked the wrong ones. Things might also have changed since then, thanks to the economy picking up and the higher competition for software engineers.

Re: How Much Does a Software Developer in Portland Earn?

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I would say the same as you would get anywhere else +/-10%. There have been a lot of threads recently around salary. I'm pretty sure it is entirely based on your willingness to negotiate to the best of your abilities. Yes, you need to be willing to step up to the plate and negotiate. Thankfully we work in a very mobile and fluid industry. I know people who live in Oklahoma and work for well known startups that get pa…

When I was looking at moving to Portland about 18 months ago, companies there wanted me to take a 40+% cut in pay versus what I'm making in San Francisco. Granted, I only talked to a couple of companies, so maybe I just picked the wrong ones. Things might also have changed since then, thanks to the economy picking up and the higher competition for software engineers.

That may be part of the reason Portland is not keeping up with other tech centers. Taking a 40% pay cut just to work in Portland is kinda... dumb.

I mean, did these startups accept a 40% cut in their valuation or funding rounds because they are based in Portland? Do they pay 40% less to host with Amazon or Rackspace? It's just ridiculous and kind of insulting. I once had someone pull that on me re. a job in Florida. The dude was like "hey, there is no income tax here!" And I was like "hey, bmws cost the same all over the country." (Not that I drive a bmw, mind you. I drive a 129$/mo honda civic. It's just the principle of it all.)

Re: How Much Does a Software Developer in Portland Earn?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was looking at moving to Portland about 18 months ago, companies there wanted me to take a 40+% cut in pay versus what I'm making in San Francisco. Granted, I only talked to a couple of companies, so maybe I just picked the wrong ones. Things might also have changed since then, thanks to the economy picking up and the higher competition for software engineers.

That may be part of the reason Portland is not keeping up with other tech centers. Taking a 40% pay cut just to work in Portland is kinda... dumb. I mean, did these startups accept a 40% cut in their valuation or funding rounds because they are based in Portland? Do they pay 40% less to host with Amazon or Rackspace? It's just ridiculous and kind of insulting. I once had someone pull that on me re. a job in Florida.…

Car costs actually vary quite a bit depending on what part of the country you purchase in.

Also, with no sales tax in Oregon, a BMW is significantly cheaper in Portland in total cost.

Re: How Much Does a Software Developer in Portland Earn?

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post #2

I would say the same as you would get anywhere else +/-10%. There have been a lot of threads recently around salary. I'm pretty sure it is entirely based on your willingness to negotiate to the best of your abilities. Yes, you need to be willing to step up to the plate and negotiate. Thankfully we work in a very mobile and fluid industry. I know people who live in Oklahoma and work for well known startups that get pa…

>I would say the same as you would get anywhere else +/-10%.

That's out there.

SFO and NYC have a huge premium attached to hiring developers there. Anywhere else in the country is easily 20% behind (but often makes up the matter on cost of living by far)

Re: How Much Does a Software Developer in Portland Earn?

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I would say the same as you would get anywhere else +/-10%. There have been a lot of threads recently around salary. I'm pretty sure it is entirely based on your willingness to negotiate to the best of your abilities. Yes, you need to be willing to step up to the plate and negotiate. Thankfully we work in a very mobile and fluid industry. I know people who live in Oklahoma and work for well known startups that get pa…

When I was looking at moving to Portland about 18 months ago, companies there wanted me to take a 40+% cut in pay versus what I'm making in San Francisco. Granted, I only talked to a couple of companies, so maybe I just picked the wrong ones. Things might also have changed since then, thanks to the economy picking up and the higher competition for software engineers.

It seems one of Portland's standing economic 'problems' is that it is apparently very nice out there.

Which is to say: wages do tend to be lower than you'd expect given the cost of living, due solely the number of skilled and educated workers who will accept comparatively lower wages, just so they can live in/around Portland.

As they say: Portland is where young people go to retire. And as long as that's true, I'd imagine Portland salaries will continue to lag 'expectations' and almost certainly trail the Valley.

Re: How Much Does a Software Developer in Portland Earn?

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I'm in Portland and used to work at Yahoo with another employee who was also from Portland pre-Yahoo. We actually worked at the same company together pre-Yahoo.

He is now living back in Portland, doing mostly a telecommute with Yahoo. If I remember right, he has 5 weeks in Portland, then flies down for 1 week in Sunnyvale. I think that's what he told me when we talked about the deal. I didn't ask about $ but I'm guessing he's not making any less. He's top talent and I'm sure Yahoo wants to retain him. I know of another "bigger" dev at Yahoo who now lives in Illinois, I think it is.

If you are really high end, it seems like location is becoming less of an issue.

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