Live data from Hacker News

Feds seize ‘counterfeit Apple AirPods’ that are actually OnePlus Buds

theverge.com

231–240 of 291 posts

Re: Feds seize ‘counterfeit Apple AirPods’ that are actually OnePlus Buds

#231
post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The TSA is responsible for creating the roadblock, and therefore should be responsible for keeping travelers whole. "read the rules" is not a justification for their policies, as it's common to have an arbitrarily-prohibited item hide in your bag. Especially the types of items that you want to live in your backpack (eg pocket knives) that you have to make sure to unpack before the airport. For anything that can be ch…

> The TSA is responsible for creating the roadblock, and therefore should be responsible for keeping travelers whole. "read the rules" is not a justification for their policies, as it's common to have an arbitrarily-prohibited item hide in your bag. Especially the types of items that you want to live in your backpack (eg pocket knives) that you have to make sure to unpack before the airport. Knives aren't "arbitraril…

... and which will never succeed again. "Arbitrarily-prohibited" was a jab at everything else they've seen fit to condemn by extension, for example pliers. It's not just knives that you have to be concerned about, but anything remotely non-basic that you otherwise keep in your backpack.

Re: Feds seize ‘counterfeit Apple AirPods’ that are actually OnePlus Buds

#233
post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The phone your holding has the same screen in the front, camera on the back, a home button, and the keyboard shows up on the bottom when you're typing. Maybe even the same front camera design. All of that is just straight-up rip-off of.. everyone's phone?

The smart-phone form factor is largely determined by the rectangular screen, and for the cameras to be useful, they have to be on the back and/or front. The keyboards are very different in design between Google and Apple, and many phones don’t have home buttons. Some even have more buttons. Conversely, there’s nothing about ear-buds that force you to use white plastic with black grills for the holes, EarPod-style ste…

well tbf the earbud form factor is largely determined by the shape of your ear.

Also the product in question come in several colors, white being just one of them. It's kind of ridiculous to rule that the earbuds they make cannot come in white colors because some other brand already does?

Also judge for yourself on physical similarities: https://twitter.com/OnePlus_USA/status/1305537918891589640

Re: Feds seize ‘counterfeit Apple AirPods’ that are actually OnePlus Buds

#234
post #139

2 days before, the CBD confiscated a pile of real "fake airpods": https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/local-media-release/cbp-seizes-... so this is clearly a thing. Unfortunately OnePlus have got caught in the crossfire.

Heck, there are fake AirPods in every store ever, go to Walmart (tall order with the pandemic) and you can see fake AirPods in the checkout shelf... lol

Re: Feds seize ‘counterfeit Apple AirPods’ that are actually OnePlus Buds

#235
post #227
post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CBP isn’t there to work through your issues, they’re there to seize contraband crossing the border. Tough shit, be more careful with suppliers next time. Many fires are caused by garbage and fraudulent electronics like your adapters.

Fwiw, CBP doesn't give a rat about safety. It's solely a trademark thing for them. Edit: Regarding below. That never came up. It was all cited as a trademark issue.

"Consumer and Product Safety Commission's (CPSC) Office of Import Surveillance (EXIS) works closely with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) to identify and examine imported shipments of consumer products."

https://www.cpsc.gov/Imports

Re: Feds seize ‘counterfeit Apple AirPods’ that are actually OnePlus Buds

#236
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think pinning this to the article is a bit rough, as the press release indicates they think the item is counterfeit, which implies that they're attempting to fraudulently pass themselves off as AirPods. To me, the use of the word "counterfeit" implies a trademark violation. That's clearly not happening, as the box indicates. If the press release indicated - anywhere - even a whiff of there being a design patent iss…

Shipping counterfeit products through customs with a misleading box that is then removed prior to sale is a common ploy. And one that CBP is aware of. The box means absolutely nothing here.

Except that they're OnePlus Buds shipped in a OnePlus Box. They don't even look like Airpods, they look like OnePlus Buds.

Re: Feds seize ‘counterfeit Apple AirPods’ that are actually OnePlus Buds

#237
post #139

2 days before, the CBD confiscated a pile of real "fake airpods": https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/local-media-release/cbp-seizes-... so this is clearly a thing. Unfortunately OnePlus have got caught in the crossfire.

Heck, there are fake AirPods in every store ever, go to Walmart (tall order with the pandemic) and you can see fake AirPods in the checkout shelf... lol

Aren't those just knockoffs rather than fakes being passed off as brand name Apple AirPods?

Re: Feds seize ‘counterfeit Apple AirPods’ that are actually OnePlus Buds

#238
post #217
post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you buy them at auction?

The winning bid was higher than what I paid :)

Wait so they effectively imported items into the country themselves, punished you and made a buck on it? Wasn't the purpose to prevent counterfeits? Or did they trash the adapters and auctioned the main item only?

Re: Feds seize ‘counterfeit Apple AirPods’ that are actually OnePlus Buds

#239
post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The winning bid was higher than what I paid :)

Wait so they effectively imported items into the country themselves, punished you and made a buck on it? Wasn't the purpose to prevent counterfeits? Or did they trash the adapters and auctioned the main item only?

Yes, they trashed the adapters and auctioned the main item. The winning bid was well below retail pricing, but much higher than wholesale cost.

Re: Feds seize ‘counterfeit Apple AirPods’ that are actually OnePlus Buds

#240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have good quality audio and low latency with Apple stuff.

The audio quality is not good compared to other similarly priced buds. And the latency with Apple is exactly what I mentioned, it is an anti-competitive move by Apple.

I don't feel like arguing about audio quality, but the reason they're being anti-competitive about it is because they're leveraging the objectively better latency.
Post reply on HN