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Re: Advocates want to name heatwaves like hurricanes to raise awareness of dangers

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Post by throwanem »

zez61 wrote: post #37
throwanem wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the massively dominant religion of one of the world's most dangerous nations, and I'm "punching down" by calling out the part of its propaganda that can't give up on making a fertility goddess out to be a demon despite having won that particular war literal millennia ago? I'm "punching down" by questioning whether a cult of the ideal death can fairly be considered to have a stake in the condition of the world th…

I noticed you didn’t answer the question and simply continued airing your grievances with Christianity with the faintest shred of relevancy, as if you were waiting for the opportunity, for HN to finally talk about something in the Christian orbit so you can roll in and put those people in their place. It says way more about you than you think that a random reference to a deity in that religion in the context of namin…

I dunno, man. I'm like ten minutes into this total, and I'm not the one who felt the need to make a throwaway and go full persecuted hegemon [1]. I can respect your very evident need to unload some stuff, but I think you might be arguing with your own imagination here. I don't even know how to use Vim!

[1] https://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2010/12/11/the-ind...

Re: Advocates want to name heatwaves like hurricanes to raise awareness of dangers

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Post by zez61 »

throwanem wrote: post #41
zez61 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed you didn’t answer the question and simply continued airing your grievances with Christianity with the faintest shred of relevancy, as if you were waiting for the opportunity, for HN to finally talk about something in the Christian orbit so you can roll in and put those people in their place. It says way more about you than you think that a random reference to a deity in that religion in the context of namin…

I dunno, man. I'm like ten minutes into this total, and I'm not the one who felt the need to make a throwaway and go full persecuted hegemon [1]. I can respect your very evident need to unload some stuff, but I think you might be arguing with your own imagination here. I don't even know how to use Vim! [1] https://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2010/12/11/the-ind...

I hire engineers in Baltimore and you’ve conveniently even put your phone number on your Web site, so I figured I’d see if you were a redeemable teammate who I wouldn’t be nervous about in terms of religious diversity in my organization, before jotting down some notes in case you cross my desk. I got my answer.

I make a new throwaway every time I interact with HN. It’s way more fun that way, because it chaps everyone’s ass and I’ve no interest in a reputation here. I’m also banned regularly, and my latest batch of throwaways has matched a regex for about six months now, waiting to see if the people who operate this site know how to employ a regular expression in Lisp.

Re: Advocates want to name heatwaves like hurricanes to raise awareness of dangers

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Post by cochne »

bzb5 wrote: post #29
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #20

While we are at it, can we change some vocabulary used for sensitising climate change from ' For the planet ' to ' Your children will die soon, your grandchildren sooner '?

How certain is that, given that according to previous predictions the Earth should currently be uninhabitable?

Which predictions are you referring to?

Re: Advocates want to name heatwaves like hurricanes to raise awareness of dangers

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Post by throwanem »

zez61 wrote: post #42
throwanem wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno, man. I'm like ten minutes into this total, and I'm not the one who felt the need to make a throwaway and go full persecuted hegemon [1]. I can respect your very evident need to unload some stuff, but I think you might be arguing with your own imagination here. I don't even know how to use Vim! [1] https://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2010/12/11/the-ind...

I hire engineers in Baltimore and you’ve conveniently even put your phone number on your Web site, so I figured I’d see if you were a redeemable teammate who I wouldn’t be nervous about in terms of religious diversity in my organization, before jotting down some notes in case you cross my desk. I got my answer. I make a new throwaway every time I interact with HN. It’s way more fun that way, because it chaps everyone…

> I hire engineers in Baltimore and you’ve conveniently even put your phone number on your Web site, so I figured I’d see if you were a redeemable teammate who I wouldn’t be nervous about in terms of religious diversity in my organization, before jotting down some notes in case you cross my desk. I got my answer.

Oh, awesome! I never imagined I'd actually be able to check "get blacklisted by an angry Christian" off my bucket list, so thanks for that! I mean, that you imagine I'd want to work for you is cute in the first place, but I really think it's an amazing look in 2020 to yell proudly in public about how you'll refuse to hire a gay man because he doesn't like your famously anti-gay religious faith.

I can definitely see why you made a throwaway, though.

Re: Advocates want to name heatwaves like hurricanes to raise awareness of dangers

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Post by gnusty_gnurc »

TheRealSteel wrote: post #23
nemo44x wrote: post #21

Are we going to officially name every tornado? Every earthquake? The article leads with “we need more drama...” - I think we have enough, thank you. We need to consider the psychological affects of these things. We already stir people into collective panics for so many things. Do we need to add another? People need less anxiety in their lives.

We ABSOLUTELY need to make people panic about heatwaves. We need to make people lose sleep about it. Get distracted by it. Feel sick about. Climate change is going to kill millions if we don't act hard, and fast. We need a global, coordinated, war-like effort immediately to prevent the displacement of billions and a new world war. Coronavirus lockdown is not even going to be a blip on the radar compared to life on th…

Anyone who can’t laugh needs to go.

You’re literally calling for doom-mongering.

I laugh in your face.

Re: Advocates want to name heatwaves like hurricanes to raise awareness of dangers

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Post by shireboy »

leetrout wrote: post #3

I am not a fan. We’re heading to naming all the major weather which happens often and is just going to desensitize people. The NOAA already doesn’t recognize winter storm names and I would expect them to use the same rationale for not naming heat waves, cold waves or any other extreme weather events that don’t bring destruction. (Not arguing against the danger of heatwaves).

Agree. Maybe I'm too cynical, but I strongly suspect this is more motivated by weather news marketing and ad revenue strategy than an altruistic desire to "raise awareness".

Re: Advocates want to name heatwaves like hurricanes to raise awareness of dangers

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Post by zez61 »

throwanem wrote: post #44
zez61 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hire engineers in Baltimore and you’ve conveniently even put your phone number on your Web site, so I figured I’d see if you were a redeemable teammate who I wouldn’t be nervous about in terms of religious diversity in my organization, before jotting down some notes in case you cross my desk. I got my answer. I make a new throwaway every time I interact with HN. It’s way more fun that way, because it chaps everyone…

> I hire engineers in Baltimore and you’ve conveniently even put your phone number on your Web site, so I figured I’d see if you were a redeemable teammate who I wouldn’t be nervous about in terms of religious diversity in my organization, before jotting down some notes in case you cross my desk. I got my answer. Oh, awesome! I never imagined I'd actually be able to check "get blacklisted by an angry Christian" off m…

Fellow gay man here: thanks for making our struggle a victim card to play when you’re confronted about your lack of soul. How supportive of you.

I already told you hostility toward religion is my concern, because I employ people of many diversities and faiths. If you want to make it your imaginative slight that’s your prerogative, but I think I’ve been quite clear and consistent throughout the thread.

Re: Advocates want to name heatwaves like hurricanes to raise awareness of dangers

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Post by throwanem »

zez61 wrote: post #47
throwanem wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I hire engineers in Baltimore and you’ve conveniently even put your phone number on your Web site, so I figured I’d see if you were a redeemable teammate who I wouldn’t be nervous about in terms of religious diversity in my organization, before jotting down some notes in case you cross my desk. I got my answer. Oh, awesome! I never imagined I'd actually be able to check "get blacklisted by an angry Christian" off m…

Fellow gay man here: thanks for making our struggle a victim card to play when you’re confronted about your lack of soul. How supportive of you. I already told you hostility toward religion is my concern, because I employ people of many diversities and faiths. If you want to make it your imaginative slight that’s your prerogative, but I think I’ve been quite clear and consistent throughout the thread.

Yeah, I mean, anyone can easily see that I'm the one playing the victim here.

Like I said before, I can respect your need to unload on somebody. You've got my phone number, you said it yourself. If it really means that much to you to pursue this, why don't you just give me a call? If nothing else, you might find it feels more therapeutic to spout off that way than in text.

Re: Advocates want to name heatwaves like hurricanes to raise awareness of dangers

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Post by martythemaniak »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #20

While we are at it, can we change some vocabulary used for sensitising climate change from ' For the planet ' to ' Your children will die soon, your grandchildren sooner '?

While I agree "for the planet" is terrible messaging (namely, the planet's been through worse and will be just fine), I also think your proposed change is bullshit.

Your children will and their children will be fine, but there's big and real chance that they will not have the standard of life you have and certainly far below what they could have. I think that's plenty scary in its own.

Re: Advocates want to name heatwaves like hurricanes to raise awareness of dangers

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Post by nemo44x »

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #38
TheRealSteel wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We ABSOLUTELY need to make people panic about heatwaves. We need to make people lose sleep about it. Get distracted by it. Feel sick about. Climate change is going to kill millions if we don't act hard, and fast. We need a global, coordinated, war-like effort immediately to prevent the displacement of billions and a new world war. Coronavirus lockdown is not even going to be a blip on the radar compared to life on th…

You know what happens after a decade of people using rhetoric like there's a war on? You get an actual war.

I agree. It's what really concerns me about slogan's like "language is violence". How many steps removed are we from someone then rationalizing that it's acceptable to respond to "violent language" with actual, physical violence? "Silence is violence" takes it even further and could justify rounding up, "reeducating", and ultimately killing people who didn't say anything in support of a moral cause.

Discourses do matter and the way we talk about things matters. If you want to make serious change, like with the climate, then using discourses that divide people will never work. We must find the universal humanism in causes and allow people to look inside to find the truth. We can't just coerce people into compliance, especially with how connected people are today and the ability for opposition ideas to take hold much more easily today than historically using hysterics and tribalism to delegitimize each other.

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