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Name.com: Another Unscrupulous Registrar

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Re: Name.com: Another Unscrupulous Registrar

#81

Am I the only one that uses DynDNS? Their service is excellent.

From the looks of it their DNS hosting is $30 per domain (let me know if I am seeing that wrong). As just a small entrepreneur and someone working for a low hourly wage that is a lot of money, especially with the 14 domains I have.

I've heard good things about their service, and would love to try it, but unfortunately it is out of my reach.

Re: Name.com: Another Unscrupulous Registrar

#82
post #76

Why is there no one on HN that runs a registrar? Seems like there could be room for a startup here that could compete on pricing and offer some unique services.

Judging by the information on the ICANN and Verisign sites, there are quite steep financial requirements to fulfill and paperwork to submit to become an accredited registrar.

Re: Name.com: Another Unscrupulous Registrar

#83
post #33

Considering you can easily change the default nameserver settings, I don't see how this is an issue. Really, your just trying to imagine problems. Maybe you'd be so kind as to direct our attention to when this specific issue has caused problems for Name.com customers in the past?

A ton of domains have been brought to UDRP for showing parking ads. Some domains might have been legal except the ads infringed on someone else's IP. Imagine owning apple.com for your apple store but apple computer ads started appearing contextually. You're screwed through no fault of your own. At least with domain parking companies, you get the profit, name.com is plain old screwing you over.

Care to share some of these domains then? A link would be helpful.

Re: Name.com: Another Unscrupulous Registrar

#84
I know I'm late to this thread, but I'm curious: how come actual entrepreneurs, people that get things done, do not set up a catch-all the Record Host "*.example.com" immediately after setting up their domains? I did that with mine (not worthy of being published), with Name.com, and had no domain parking ever.

By the way, to me the most incredible part is this widespread practice of domain parking by default and without sharing revenues, not the threatening legalese. Not much domain ownership there!

Re: Name.com: Another Unscrupulous Registrar

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As with everything, you have to learn the hard way the first time. The difference though is that no other registrar I've used (6 of them) has used such an aggressive tactic that breaks DNS for monetization purposes. Typically you change the default A record and you're rid of their parked page for good. The conclusion of my post was that one should not use name.com for DNS at all, and, if you have any ethical concerns…

Who do you use? I'd like to switch.

I have very good experiences with both namecheap and gandi... Gandi is by far my favorite but they are a bit pricy...

Re: Name.com: Another Unscrupulous Registrar

#86

It's a simple case of the company lawyer(s) overdoing a CYA clause and standing by it. However, the company seems to have gladly taken your call to discuss it with you, and then consult their lawyers regarding the potential for a change. While you didn't get what you want, it seems like they were fairly considerate. So, just change the nameservers after registration and move on. I understand if you disagree with thei…

No. Their policy is completely indefensible. They control what goes on the typosquatted page, but you're responsible for its content? Absurd.

Would such a thing hold up in court?

Re: Name.com: Another Unscrupulous Registrar

#87

It's a simple case of the company lawyer(s) overdoing a CYA clause and standing by it. However, the company seems to have gladly taken your call to discuss it with you, and then consult their lawyers regarding the potential for a change. While you didn't get what you want, it seems like they were fairly considerate. So, just change the nameservers after registration and move on. I understand if you disagree with thei…

I agree. There is likely no legal precedent. Someone or a consumer rights group with have to take a registar/hoster to court to litigate the actual language and what the related rights are.

Until then they can and will insert arbitrary rules to their advantage... as they should? Maybe, I dunno, depends on whose ethics you're living by.

Re: Name.com: Another Unscrupulous Registrar

#88
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A ton of domains have been brought to UDRP for showing parking ads. Some domains might have been legal except the ads infringed on someone else's IP. Imagine owning apple.com for your apple store but apple computer ads started appearing contextually. You're screwed through no fault of your own. At least with domain parking companies, you get the profit, name.com is plain old screwing you over.

Care to share some of these domains then? A link would be helpful.

"The Panel also believes that in using the disputed domain names to redirect Internet users to websites that host links to external websites, including websites of Complainant’s competitors, the Respondent has registered and used the domain names in bad faith"

http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2003/d2003...

There is a starting point.

Re: Name.com: Another Unscrupulous Registrar

#89
I agree that the situation is legally impossible: basically they are trying to hold you responsible for code they add and which you cannot touch. Won't keep up in court.

Secondly it does not look good for the site owner, as some have a few subdomains and users might make a typo. 3rdly, Godaddy and others also do this, but at least they 'share' any 'profit'.

Anyway, I just got my first few domains at name.com and just forwarded them to another domain. No spampages. Cheers

Re: Name.com: Another Unscrupulous Registrar

#90
post #52

Here's how to clean the ads from your domain. Name.com's DNS editor won't let you remove the DNS record that serves the ads. You need to switch to a real DNS provider. CloudFlare is a free DNS provider - generally people use it to hook up the CloudFlare security and auto-CDN system, but you just need it for DNS hosting. 1 Create an account and add your domain: www.cloudflare.com 2 Disable the orange cloud icons 3 Fol…

I believe the whole idea and argument is here, that you shouldn't have to go to this much effort simply to have full control over your domain.

It's like buying a brand new car but always having one seat occupied by someone the car manufacturer thinks needs a ride.

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