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Re: Firebug

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Post by chedabob » Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 11:52 AM UTC

mostlystatic wrote: post #9

This reminds me of two other now-obsolete web debugging tools. Weinre[1] let you to view the DOM, network requests, and console output when testing sites on a phone. Aardwolf[2] provided an interactive JavaScript debugger, by rewriting the code to add debug hooks. [1] http://people.apache.org/~pmuellr/weinre/docs/latest/ [2] https://github.com/lexandera/Aardwolf

Weinre made building apps using PhoneGap/Cordova just that tiny little bit less painful in the early days. Really great tool.

Re: Firebug

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Post by kilroy123 » Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 11:55 AM UTC

For a long time, I resisted switching to Chrome just because of Firebug. IMO it was superior for quite a while. Eventually, Chrome got better, and I made the jump.

Nowadays, I'm back on Firefox.

Re: Firebug

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Post by pknerd » Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 12:17 PM UTC

As long as I used FF I always used Firebug. Thanks Joe Hewitt.

Re: Firebug

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Post by usr1106 » Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 12:32 PM UTC

Confused. I thought Firebug is no longer needed because the functionality is part of Firefox developer tools, which have been always visible in Firefox for years (at least in many Linux distros, maybe that's not a Mozilla default?).

The site mentions Firefox Developer Edition. What is that? A quick search seems to indicate that it's just one version ahead of Beta, what was called Aurora in the past.

Certainly if you want to test new features that's good. But what is the benefit for general Web development?

/not a web developer

Re: Firebug

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Post by dewey » Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 12:34 PM UTC

usr1106 wrote: post #14

Confused. I thought Firebug is no longer needed because the functionality is part of Firefox developer tools, which have been always visible in Firefox for years (at least in many Linux distros, maybe that's not a Mozilla default?). The site mentions Firefox Developer Edition. What is that? A quick search seems to indicate that it's just one version ahead of Beta, what was called Aurora in the past. Certainly if you…

It's the old website, look at the timeline that stops at 2017 and it pointing to the default Firefox tools.

Re: Firebug

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Post by dependenttypes » Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 12:34 PM UTC

I never understood why mozilla decided to implement their own inferior and laggier version of developer tools when firebug existed.

Re: Firebug

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Post by brainless » Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 1:21 PM UTC

I feel Firebug is one of those developer tools that would have been highly monetized in the current start era. I owe a lot of my own career path as a Web software engineer to Firebug.

Re: Firebug

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY » Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 1:29 PM UTC

troyjfarrell wrote: post #8

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #4

I loved FireBug. Nowadays, every browser has its capabilities, but back in the day, FireBug was the only game in town.

Venkman was the only game in town. It was a glorious day when Firebug surpassed Venkman. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Venkman/Firebug_Comparison

Forgot about that one.

Re: Firebug

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Post by globular-toast » Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 1:29 PM UTC

Firebug, along with web developer toolbar, changed everything for me. I learnt web development on IE6 by editing html in notepad. I switched to Firefox for tabbed browsing and because it was faster. When I discovered firebug I almost couldn't believe it. What the hell had I been doing up to this point? Why doesn't everyone know about this? Later I discovered that Chrome had it built in and still most web devs hadn't heard of firebug.

Re: Firebug

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Post by homero » Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 1:43 PM UTC

brainless wrote: post #17

I feel Firebug is one of those developer tools that would have been highly monetized in the current start era. I owe a lot of my own career path as a Web software engineer to Firebug.

I learned CSS with firebug, before that I had no clue what CSS was when it first came out in daily use