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Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Have you actually tried that, while living in a urban environment and not in the bush? Because shit on the floor is also not really hygienic.

Lol, your baby tells you that it must go and you hold it over toilet. And yes I raised two child like that.

And pee?

... and I know the technic and I know it requires more time. And the people I know applying it .. were only partly succesfull. With the result of shit around. And pee.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Apparently, owning a car is the easiest way to commit social suicide in Vauban — That is the spirit unfortunately. Unfortunately, because once you allow to degrade strangers/neighbors in public for something malign like that, it doesn’t stop there. Because of this Vauban is not always admired, rather sometimes regarded as tax payer funded dystopia for upper class people to live in. E.g. your amount of thrash you can…

It's a cultural thing. Some people can't imagine living wihout a car, others can't imagine using disposable diapers, others can't imagine not forcing women to wear a veil. Or, for example, is your trash production a private affair, or is it a communal responsibility, subject to scrutiny?

If you're flexible you can set up your outlook however you think is best. And there are of course prevailing mindsets, depending on where you are. For me, Vauban seems closer to ideal than a lot of other places.

I think often people, who find themselves closer to mainstream, find themselves judged, or fearing judgment, from the marginal "progressives" (and vice versa). I think it's normal for this mainstream-marginal tension to exist, and it's independent of whatever the distinguishing opinions are. If the tension is getting bad, it's just a symptom of people having trouble socialising; capacity for variety is a major societal health indicator. Doesn't really say anything about the actual topics discussed, like eco-friendliness in this case.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Yes, how much larger is China than France? The 12 in China don't even compare to the single plant built in France right now, if you do the math. And of course, just France would need over 50 new plants, if they wanted to continue to use nuclear energy.

> The 12 in China don't even compare to the single plant built in France right now, if you do the math. I have no idea what you're talking about. The 12 reactors under construction in China are equal to 19% of France's entire nuclear base. And those are just what China has under construction over the next four to five years. In the 20 years it will take France to expand Flamanville, China will have deployed new nucle…

Well you have to divide the energy generation by the population. China has 21 times the population of France, so building 12x as many nuclear power plants isn't much. And France would need to build at least 10 right now, if they wanted to keep their ratio of nuclear power production.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Have you actually tried that, while living in a urban environment and not in the bush? Because shit on the floor is also not really hygienic.

Lol, your baby tells you that it must go and you hold it over toilet. And yes I raised two child like that.

What the fuck

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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What do the Amish have to do with diapers?

They do a serious assessment of every new technology to decide if it adds value to their society. Disposable nappies are one of the few technologies they decided to use.

> Disposable nappies are one of the few technologies they decided to use.

As they don't huddle in caves without tools, the Amish use lots of technology.

They actually use fair amounts of modern technology, it's just that the things they reject are pretty central to modern mainstream lifestyle.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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I lost interest in the city as soon as the article pointed out that the city's "environmentalism" was rooted in opposition to a nuclear power plant. This kind of thinking is backwards and self-destructive.

Not just the city, Germany made the decision to shut down ALL of the nuclear power plants when Fukushima happened. Now they found they're dependent on Russian gas.

It is comments like this that really shows how HN is sinking to Reddit levels. FUD is spreading like a Corona virus on a tourist ship.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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That may be due to privacy laws in Germany, a lot of houses are blurred out on google maps for example.

Privacy laws are the same nowaday all over EU more or less (the are some national differences). The difference is that the awareness for privacy in Germany has been much higher at least since the early 1990s when a census was declared unconstitutional in supreme court. A long time becfore surveillance capitalism was thing. Germany probably has the biggest share of people opposing Google in all markets they operate in…

Sad that the awareness makes very little difference. Looking at CryptoAG, Maximator, etc. Germany is one of the worst sinners right below UK and US.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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> why you aren‘t using reusable diapers in the first place. A good question indeed?

I can tell you that the kindergarten were my kids attended in Germany, they were against reusable diapers, because it generated more job to the the educators which were already overwhelmed.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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I lost interest in the city as soon as the article pointed out that the city's "environmentalism" was rooted in opposition to a nuclear power plant. This kind of thinking is backwards and self-destructive.

Or, to paraphrase, you let a protest that occurred 45 years ago interfere with you learning about urban planning.

especially since 45 years ago tschernoyl happened, which DIRECTLY affected the region around freiburg aswell.

Re: Freiburg: Germany's futuristic city set in a forest

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Don't know which part of Suisse you talk about, but for me, living in Zurich, Lausanne and Geneva I never experienced even a glimpse of what OP mentions. Yes, you can't behave like an arrogant a-hole, people will complain and call services/cops on you. But if you follow few simple rules which can be summed up as 'be respectful of others and laws in the country', you can have a great time since respect goes both ways.

I understand what parent is saying and this Freiburg example is a good one: there are going to be situations and times (such as the birth of a newborn) where following strictly to the rules (you have a limited amount of trash to dispose) just isn't viable or even possible. Anything that deviates from the norm and established rules, even slightly, is at least frowned upon and at most results in a fine or some other ma…

No you are wrong. People living there have had children or have children. Everybody knows when making an exception is ok or not, or when the allocated trash associated to a household must be increase.

The assumption that people living there are intolerant of babies and families is false.

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