Zoom towns and the new housing market for the two Americas

Post by refurb » Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 12:08 AM UTC

205guy wrote: post #79

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It depends on the roll obviously, but I can see a company saying “hey everyone, 6 months from now we’ll all be in the office” and then deal with those who push back on an individual basis. High performer who is hard to replace? Sure, we’ll be flexible. Low performer with 10 people lined up, ready to take the role? If you’re not in the office on Monday, you’ll be fired. And the thing that gets me is some of the boomin…

> Tahoe for example. If you can’t work from home, it’s unlikely you’ll find another job locally. That’s the situation now, but after 1000 remote tech workers move there and 500 decide not to go back to the city, 100 might pivot to lifestyle startups that employ 100-200 more. And now you have a little incubator that wasn’t there before and might grow a nice little self-sustaining eco-system. And once it gets going, it…

Post by aneesh297 » Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 12:09 AM UTC

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>On the contrary, we’ve never been more lonely and distant as a society. yes, because all communal institutions have been disbanded before millennials were even born, that was the point? Millenials are lonely because they're the offspring of what was the peak of the nuclear family generation. They're growing up without any communal connection, increasingly without religious communities, Gen Z probably doesn't even ha…

That's weird because the nuclear family is as old as civilization and the idea of wide social nets that span long distances is relatively new. For vast majority of human history we lived in small tribes and then the family became the tribe to belong to within a civilization. Virtually any institution you could point to is less than a few generations from being mainstream meanwhile family is timeless. I get that some…

Post by onlyrealcuzzo » Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 12:19 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #14

I think a lot of people living in cities think there's only two options - living in an apartment downtown in a megacity, and living in a car-bound wasteland suburb. But there's a third option - towns. I know you have them in the US! I've been to a few of them. Walkable towns with coffee shops, restaurants, bars, culture, dating. You can even find a few in the Bay Area if you don't want to look too far. Isn't the smal…

Post by claydavisss » Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 12:27 AM UTC

refurb wrote: post #31

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> I wonder whether this trend will reverse in the next 1-3 years or this is the new permanent dynamic of the SF rental market. IMO, that's completely dependent on how much SF tech companies embrace remote work.

What confuses me is the home buying far outside urban areas. I understand that people will be working from home for 12 months, but buying a home an expensive transaction. If forced to go back to the office, these folks are looking at very long commute. I assume they: 1) know for sure they can wfh permanently, 2) are betting they will be able to wfh permanently or 3) are willing to quit when asked to come back to the…

Post by sudosteph » Sun, Sep 13, 2020, 12:38 AM UTC

dontremeber wrote: post #38

> Many Americans — especially 30-somethings who remain employed — are ditching their tiny rental apartments in hip districts of expensive cities and moving to buy houses in more affordable cities or the burbs... I suppose I fall into this category but even houses in the burbs seem more expensive than they should be. I’m specifically looking at up and coming towns, not any random burb but buying a house that’s literal…