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PayPal is currently blocking all transactions containing the word “tardigrade”

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Re: PayPal is currently blocking all transactions containing the word “tardigrade”

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Post by didibus »

_Microft wrote: post #7

Per [0], a possible answer to this seems to be that an arms dealer had connections to a company called Tardigrade Ltd. and all transactions with firms like these are prohibited which is why the word "Tardigrade" made it into PayPal's filter. As long as companies like PayPal have issues like that, or with moderation in case of Youtube, Twitter or Facebook, I'd claim neither of these companies have actually solved scal…

What's your treshold though? I mean, it's easy to get in a raising the bar fallacy here. If this happens to only say 0.1% of PayPal transactions? Would that be good enough? Why that treshold? What about 1% ? Or should it be 0.01% ?

Re: PayPal is currently blocking all transactions containing the word “tardigrade”

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Post by szhu »

bleepblorp wrote: post #18
_Microft wrote: post #7

Per [0], a possible answer to this seems to be that an arms dealer had connections to a company called Tardigrade Ltd. and all transactions with firms like these are prohibited which is why the word "Tardigrade" made it into PayPal's filter. As long as companies like PayPal have issues like that, or with moderation in case of Youtube, Twitter or Facebook, I'd claim neither of these companies have actually solved scal…

These kinds of problems are a product of scale. For companies the size of Paypal, Google, or Twitter, the revenue from their operations is so great that leaving a few crumbs on the table by not handling corner cases is of no concern. Smaller companies can't afford to lose (for example) 10% of their business to corner cases. For large monopolies, a 90% solution is more than good enough.

Yes, large companies have solved their own money-making problems of scale by becoming so large that problems that we find important as a society become ignorable for their bottom line.

That doesn't mean that they've solved the problems of scale that we care about as a society.

Re: PayPal is currently blocking all transactions containing the word “tardigrade”

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Post by mrweasel »

_Microft wrote: post #7

Per [0], a possible answer to this seems to be that an arms dealer had connections to a company called Tardigrade Ltd. and all transactions with firms like these are prohibited which is why the word "Tardigrade" made it into PayPal's filter. As long as companies like PayPal have issues like that, or with moderation in case of Youtube, Twitter or Facebook, I'd claim neither of these companies have actually solved scal…

I don’t know if PayPal ever claimed otherwise, but I’ve suspected that much of the AI powered moderation online is simply advanced keyword matching.

We have to start accepting that either websites are unwilling to or unable to do moderation in any meaningful way, unless they hire human moderators at huge costs.

Hearing an interview with the country for Facebook on Danish radio just two weeks ago, it’s pretty clear to me that it’s not that Facebook aren’t willing to implement the moderation politicians requests, the problem is that they can’t. And if Facebook can’t implement moderation, there’s no way PayPal is able to with a much smaller budget.

Re: PayPal is currently blocking all transactions containing the word “tardigrade”

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Post by akerro »

_Microft wrote: post #7

Per [0], a possible answer to this seems to be that an arms dealer had connections to a company called Tardigrade Ltd. and all transactions with firms like these are prohibited which is why the word "Tardigrade" made it into PayPal's filter. As long as companies like PayPal have issues like that, or with moderation in case of Youtube, Twitter or Facebook, I'd claim neither of these companies have actually solved scal…

Are you telling me I can start website called "ebay ltd" and get donations from paypal for hosting wikileaks and snowden leaks and paypay might block ebay transactions along with my ebay ltd?
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