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PayPal is currently blocking all transactions containing the word “tardigrade”

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Re: PayPal is currently blocking all transactions containing the word “tardigrade”

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Anyone care to guess as to why? At face value it seems like a very odd word to censor, I have absolutely no clue what the motivation might be.

There is a blockchain-related project called tardigrade. I guess they just have a big list of crypto-related terms.

Edited to add: or the arms dealer. Either seem likely.

Re: PayPal is currently blocking all transactions containing the word “tardigrade”

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Here's some context: https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/n7wg3w/paypal-tardigr... Likely not due to the Scunthorpe problem like one might expect, but due to an arms dealer having sold weapons through a shell company named Tardigrade.

Non Amp - https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7wg3w/paypal-tardigrade-...

Re: PayPal is currently blocking all transactions containing the word “tardigrade”

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post #13
post #8

Here's some context: https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/n7wg3w/paypal-tardigr... Likely not due to the Scunthorpe problem like one might expect, but due to an arms dealer having sold weapons through a shell company named Tardigrade.

Non Amp - https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7wg3w/paypal-tardigrade-...

Non-Vice: https://www.geekwire.com/2020/weird-seattle-retailer-archie-...

Re: PayPal is currently blocking all transactions containing the word “tardigrade”

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Non Amp - https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7wg3w/paypal-tardigrade-...

Non-Vice: https://www.geekwire.com/2020/weird-seattle-retailer-archie-...

What’s wrong with Vice?

Re: PayPal is currently blocking all transactions containing the word “tardigrade”

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post #7

Per [0], a possible answer to this seems to be that an arms dealer had connections to a company called Tardigrade Ltd. and all transactions with firms like these are prohibited which is why the word "Tardigrade" made it into PayPal's filter. As long as companies like PayPal have issues like that, or with moderation in case of Youtube, Twitter or Facebook, I'd claim neither of these companies have actually solved scal…

These kinds of problems are a product of scale.

For companies the size of Paypal, Google, or Twitter, the revenue from their operations is so great that leaving a few crumbs on the table by not handling corner cases is of no concern.

Smaller companies can't afford to lose (for example) 10% of their business to corner cases. For large monopolies, a 90% solution is more than good enough.

Re: PayPal is currently blocking all transactions containing the word “tardigrade”

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post #9

Farther down the thread: A few people mentioned OFAC sanctions, so I investigated a bit more. In Dec 2019, US Dept of Treasury sanctioned companies linked to Serbian arms dealer Slobodan Tesic, including Cyprus-based Tardigrade Ltd. So PayPal flags tardigrade ornaments by mistake.

Part of this is no doubt Paypal's fault, but part of it is also the fault of the US's over-the-top trade sanctions laws. The penalties for getting it wrong are so severe, it creates a strong incentive for companies to err on the side of caution even when doing so produces idiotic outcomes like this one.

Re: PayPal is currently blocking all transactions containing the word “tardigrade”

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post #12

So this "internal security system" takes over the company even if they don't want this. This is so wrong I don't even know where to start.

It's a trade sanctions issue. PayPal could end up in deep shit with the Treasury Department if they let their front-line support techs override an OFAC match.

There is almost certainly a way to handle this, but it involves talking to PayPal's legal department, and it will take time.

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