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Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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Re: Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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You're mentioning the largest American Brands, which do not represent the bulk of businesses. In fact they have different channels to setup their businesses and lobby their way around. When I made that comment I was referring to SME, which is also the bulk of let's say, Chinese sellers on Amazon US. Try to do what Chinese people do on Amazon, but on a Chinese platform as a SME, to sell products in China.

Your SME will be about as successful at operating in a Chinese market, as a Croatian SME will be successful at operating in an American market. That is to say, you'd need a pretty exceptional product, that is significantly better then local alternatives to get anywhere, because you're not going to be able to compete on price, or on brand recognition. The reason Chinese SMEs are punching above their weight in foreign…

People often think it's labour, but it's much more than that. Low cost of everything. Transportation, production machinery, raw materials. And short lead times.

Try buying something like a coil winder, an induction heater, a spot welder, or a heat sealer. Even in the US, you're much more likely to find Chinese equipment more competitive and more readily available. Especially for an SME.

Re: Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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While I agree with you, I think there's something that should be pointed out: China stance on foreign companies doing business in China. Currently China wants all the perks of the open global market, while closing it's own. I don't understand how this is allowed.

I completely agree. I feel that China just directly protects their markets while for whatever reason the US hides behind a defense justification.

That's just because the U.S. is better at propaganda then China. Probably due to cultural differences. In the west official term for this is "soft power". Propaganda is when China, Russia or other adversarial countries do it.

There is a whole lexicon of alternative doublespeak if you pay attention.

Re: Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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> Currently China wants all the perks of the open global market, while closing it's own. I don't understand how this is allowed. That's the same for the US. When it suits them there's sanctions, embargoes, tariffs, and questioning/forbiding foreign companies, investments, etc.

It isn’t the same at all. China routinely bans American internet companies for no apparent reason. Whereas the vast majority of Chinese companies are allowed to sell into the US. No other country operates like China does, with such drastic anti-foreign policies.

There’s a very clear reason, they don’t follow Chinese censorship and data laws.

Both Google and Facebook once operated in China, but after the multiple terrorist attacks, they were unwilling (or unable) to comply with Chinese laws.

That’s why Skype and iMessage are available in China, they comply with Chinese laws.

Re: Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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post #72

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Closing it's own as in? With the exception of internet giants, everything else seemed to be well represented in China. name a western brand of physical good that's not available in China. Granted that our lives are more software oriented in this forum, majority of the trade in this planet is decidedly not.

Plenty of non-giant internet companies are banned in China as well.

Do those companies follow China’s data and censorship laws?

Re: Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It isn’t the same at all. China routinely bans American internet companies for no apparent reason. Whereas the vast majority of Chinese companies are allowed to sell into the US. No other country operates like China does, with such drastic anti-foreign policies.

There’s a very clear reason, they don’t follow Chinese censorship and data laws. Both Google and Facebook once operated in China, but after the multiple terrorist attacks, they were unwilling (or unable) to comply with Chinese laws. That’s why Skype and iMessage are available in China, they comply with Chinese laws.

> but after the multiple terrorist attacks,

'Terrorist attacks' from who exactly? When French or Polish resistance members assassinated Germans, I bet the Nazis thought that was 'terrorism.' The Chinese government likes to cry and moans about 'terrorism' from Tibetans and Uyghurs, but the CCP are the real terrorists in these situations. Any American company that cooperates with them are abetting genocide.

Re: Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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> A code audit carried out by FTI Consulting was said to have revealed no causes for concern, with DJI posting the exec summary (but not the full audit) on its website as a PDF. It had access to 20 million lines of source code, according to the summary, with analysis focusing on code concerned with “communication protocols and network activity with host infrastructure”. DJI can pay for all the audits in the world, if…

Is their software gonna be audited every time they do an update? Nope, so they can change it

Re: Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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I have a DJI Mavic Mini and I was very impressed with the hardware and software overall. My kids and I have had a lot of fun flying this little drone! It does log every flight to the cloud, showing the telemetry logs of exactly where the drone flew and what it sent and received along the way (not full video, just telemetry). I find the logs extremely cool to look over after the fact when analyzing a flight. Their ins…

> I wouldn't want them to have copies of the video or pictures, and as I understand it those never leave the SD card. I'm sure you know this, but in addition to the imagery being saved on the SD card, it is also streamed to your smartphone, which runs proprietary software and is connected to the internet.

Any you switch off the internet?

Re: Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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woo! dept of interior insisted on this, got a forked DJI OS, and did an expensive consulting round to verify that it didn't phone home looks like all it takes to negotiate privacy w/ a big tech company is a million+ procurement process and a trade war

Can you share a link with more information on this forked DJI OS?

yeah the dept of interior released a pdf

https://www.doi.gov/sites/doi.gov/files/uploads/oas_flight_t...

they call it a 'government edition', if you search that term in the PDF the first few matches give some details

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