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Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Is there a plain text composing mode? Or is it by default plain text if I don't turn on the rich text toolbar?

Right now, it's WYSIWYG HTML composing only. Got a ton of requests for plain text (and markdown) composing support, and I definitely plan on adding it, though it might take a few months at this point.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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> Instead of using the IMAP protocol, Mimestream utilizes the Gmail API That's sadly a step in the wrong direction. JMAP ( https://jmap.io/ ) has been around for a while and it is a shame google refuses to adopt it.

So Gmail doesn't support it and yet it wrong for this developer to go this route? Being snobby about protocols isn't useful and comments like that should be sent to Google instead.

Wasn't supposed to come across like that. The sad part is that Google has enough grip on e-mail to halt adoption of any standard; GMail has been around for 16 years, you'd expect some kind of standard to come out of it to support modern e-mail features. Developers not having a choice doesn't make it less wrong.

JMAP has been around for 5+ years, and specs published last year by the IETF: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8620 and https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8621

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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First of all, this app is awesome. I started to make some serious progress on clearing up my email backlog.

One suggestion: I really love the iOS gmail app feature to quickly switch between all mail and show unread mail only. I'd love a button or an option under the "go" menu to jump to unread mail. I know I can type "label:unread" in the search, but a one/two click method would be awesome!

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Looks fantastic. I strongly urge you to reconsider building out an application that serves only Google though!

"Serves only Google" when talking about email is not as limiting as your language suggests. As of October 2018, Gmail had 1.5 billion users.

I think you're missing the point I was trying to make. When Gmail decides to ship their own native client on MacOS, this platform will become abandonware.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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I've been using the beta for a while and I'm happy to see it land here on HN. The two things I love most about Mimestream are: 1. It's wicked fast (seriously) 2. It has Gmail style shortcuts The only thing I wish it had was a generic IMAP support for some of my other accounts. Either way I've been liking it!

Thanks! IMAP account support is something I would really like to add (and Mimestream already uses IMAP for some specific operations where it is a better fit), but from past experience I know that it is complicated ;) I'm also really keen on adding support for JMAP and Office 365 I the future.

Adding JMAP would be a definite +1 for me. I use fastmail and their web interface is good and mobile app is better.

I use Thunderbird on my Mac because I need things like smart signatures that are dependent on my outgoing email address but I want a combined Inbox.

A native app that supports JMAP and provides that sort of integration would let me migrate from Thunderbird, which while it's been awesome for the years I've used it, is showing its UI age.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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post #5

This looks amazing. I am so glad that you kept it as close to the native Mail experience as possible. My only question relates to payment. This is an app that I would gladly pay a solid price to own (in the ballpark of $50?). I would _much_ prefer that over a subscription model. Because the site mentions eventual payment, but doesn't specify a pricing model, would you be willing to elaborate on your intentions?

Thanks! So, I don't know exactly what the pricing model will be yet, but I definitely hear your feedback on this topic, and I'm looking at pretty much every option :) My intention is to build a sustainable long-term business, and deliver a continuous/regular stream of updates (e.g. see the Release Notes at https://mimestream.com/releases ), so the pricing model will need to support that goal.

A possibility I just considered was a whitelabel option so that email vendors like Fastmail could offer it as part of their subscription... integrate to their contacts and calendars and let them to do the work of that, similar to how you're letting Google do the lifting on their side.

I pay for the following subscriptions/software as a tech user (I do some development, but most of my work is design and management):

* Fastmail business (I've got email in the archive back to 1998)

* Microsoft Office for Mac

* Dash

I see my subs as a monthly work/business cost, so I'd see Mimestream as "worth" somewhere around the $10/month price point. I'm just one data point though :)

The company I work with/for uses a combination of GSuite and things like Lucidchart/Confluence/JIRA, but that's their choice :)

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