I've always wondered why do companies call it "opt" in if it's not optional?
Apple: Apps should not require users to opt into tracking to access content
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Re: Apple: Apps should not require users to opt into tracking to access content
#72Such things are never going to come to Android are they? Every preinstalled app abuses every permission possible
On Android, you can deny permissions to preinstalled apps (I just verified this myself) or even disable the apps entirely, which unlinks all entry points into the app. On iOS, they just sit there sucking up your data like iMessage keeping track of everybody you message.
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#73I remember ios 5 I think brought app permissions. Essentially say app A should not get location or contacts and put this behind a password. The app couldnt do shit. Then android after late got some permissions but its still lame IMO. App can deny you access without a permission. A recent thing I have seen on android is permission protection or whatever. The system gives dummy or no access to the contacts for example…
Correction: iOS has had permissions at least for as long as apps were allowed and more permissions were added over time.
Screenshot in the Camera section of this iPhoneOS 2 review: https://www.imore.com/iphone-os-2-review
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#74Full text of the clause: > 3.2.2 Unacceptable > (vi) Apps should allow a user to get what they’ve paid for without performing additional tasks, such as posting on social media, uploading contacts, checking in to the app a certain number of times, etc. Apps should not require users to rate the app, review the app, watch videos, download other apps, tap on advertisements, enable tracking, or take other similar actions…
> watch videos
So games that periodically stop to show a full screen ad and don't resume until the user closes the ad are in violation?
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#75Everybody complains about the walled garden, but damn I love to see things like this.
This policy is straight from GDPR. The Play Store and the Amazon App Store also enforce this, despite neither enforcing walled gardens.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
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whataboutism: n. An accusation of hypocrisy designed to deflect from bad behavior on the part of another party.
Ha! Ive never actually looked the definition up. This is definitely whataboutism (I still havent looked the definition up so Im trusting this the actual definition)
Re: Apple: Apps should not require users to opt into tracking to access content
#77Full text of the clause: > 3.2.2 Unacceptable > (vi) Apps should allow a user to get what they’ve paid for without performing additional tasks, such as posting on social media, uploading contacts, checking in to the app a certain number of times, etc. Apps should not require users to rate the app, review the app, watch videos, download other apps, tap on advertisements, enable tracking, or take other similar actions…
> watch videos So games that periodically stop to show a full screen ad and don't resume until the user closes the ad are in violation?
Is this for paid games? I imagine this would not apply to freemium games.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
whataboutism: n. An accusation of hypocrisy designed to deflect from bad behavior on the part of another party.
Ha! Ive never actually looked the definition up. This is definitely whataboutism (I still havent looked the definition up so Im trusting this the actual definition)
well, I did make that up.
but here's dictionary.com on the subject, and I think it's congruent, you'll have to judge for yourself:
Re: Apple: Apps should not require users to opt into tracking to access content
#79Thats a good thing. Can Apple guarantee that they themselves are not tracking their users' app preferences/behaviour either?
There's a fairly simple cui bono aspect to this.
Apple makes money by selling products to their users or taking a cut of the users' purchases in their marketplace.
Facebook and Google, on the other hand, make most of their money by selling micro-segmented access to their user base to third parties.
Which of these two kinds of companies stands to benefit from harvesting more data about their users whenever possible?
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't youtube, with its ads, violate this policy?
When it comes to YouTube the waters are muddy. The YouTube app is just a client to a third-party web service (whose functionality falls outside of App Store rules); so in this case it can be argued that the "functionality" of the app is just the client functionality and not the content itself. Furthermore you can skip ads on YouTube after a 5-second timer, so this seems reasonably fair, though I would still not insta…
> Furthermore you can skip ads on YouTube after a 5-second timer
For me, that only really happens these days with mid-video ads (and even then it's happening less frequently despite the number of mid-video ads increasing.) Most of this week I've had double unskippable ads at the front of many videos and they're generally 60+ seconds combined.