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Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

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Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

#101

We need to focus on the second R, reuse. I have mason jars that my grandmother and then my mother used for pickling. The only waste is the rubber ring which needs to be replaced occasionally and THAT could be recycled. Many of these bottles have been used for 80+ years now. I have a few Ball jars which my GREAT grandmother used 100+ years ago. Beer bottles in Canada are reused dozens of times and are recyclable (brow…

Sure, but all the glass that gets used for reuse is for liquids , which are also all heavy to begin with. Do you have examples of successful packaging reuse for solid dry food such as Pringles? Or cereal? Or sugar? Or chocolate? (And that's before even getting into packaging of meat, fish, etc.)

Sure, here in Vermont we have lots of dry good options (cereal, dry tea, spices, etc) that are bulk into reusable containers. Pringles aren't conducive to that but I'd certainly scoop tortilla chips, goldfish, etc if I could.

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

#102

My immediate thought is it sounds like Kellogg's/Pringles could get a lot of free positive marketing by just switching to a "100% biodegradable" bag? Nobody likes Pringles because they're in a tube.

Not true, the tube makes sure the chips stay mostly intact. The shape of the chips fits neatly around your tongue. Pringles are made of flour, they would turn to dust in an ordinary bag.

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

#103
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I love Pringles tubes. We reuse them all over the place around the house. Never really thought of recycling them. Seems like a terrible waste to destroy a perfectly good container just to get a ~penny’s worth of materials out of it. Recyclers are downstream from consumers. They can’t stop consumers from throwing away their pringles cans, and until Kellogg’s starts bulk-selling Pringles in bags… people will throw ca…

That’s where the first R comes in. Only buy as many Pringles cans as you can reuse. People don’t want to do that either, though, because Pringles are addictive. That may be the root problem. There’s no way they’ll sell Pringles in bags though; they’re way too delicate for anything but a purpose-built rigid container.

> Only buy as many Pringles cans as you can reuse.

So about six cans of Pringles per lifetime?

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

#104

We need to focus on the second R, reuse. I have mason jars that my grandmother and then my mother used for pickling. The only waste is the rubber ring which needs to be replaced occasionally and THAT could be recycled. Many of these bottles have been used for 80+ years now. I have a few Ball jars which my GREAT grandmother used 100+ years ago. Beer bottles in Canada are reused dozens of times and are recyclable (brow…

Sure, but all the glass that gets used for reuse is for liquids , which are also all heavy to begin with. Do you have examples of successful packaging reuse for solid dry food such as Pringles? Or cereal? Or sugar? Or chocolate? (And that's before even getting into packaging of meat, fish, etc.)

There are more and more stores that sell dry food without packaging. The customers have to bring their packaging (jars, etc..) required to take the goods home.

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

#105

Maybe I'm naive, but I don't see a good reason why government can't introduce legislation to enforce standardized packaging across product "classes" to streamline reuse and recycling - for example, all soda bottles of size x, must come in shape y, made out of polymer z. The obvious financial impact would be companies having to potentially retool their factories to facilitate that, but there can also be sensible tax r…

> ... all soda bottles of size x, must come in shape y, made out of polymer z. This style of legislation is exactly how we get articles like this posted. Where we can't have new headlight technology in the US because the law exactly prescribes the types of headlights permitted. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24042266 We need to find a way to manage this while still allowing science and technology to do its thin…

Like you would put `package-z >= v1.2.3` in your dependency manager, lawful requirements could be expressed like this. Maybe something to consider.

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

#106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, we take the “reuse” and repurpose parts of three R’s very seriously in Turkey. Our flower pots are usually used empty cheese containers and all the plastic bottles are reused for containment of homemade stuff, tomato paste/olives etc... We do not recycle although.

Which is not necessarily safe depending on the type of plastic (not sure how it goes in Turkey though).

... and depending on the type of food. IIRC acidic foods should not be mixed with some plastics (and also not with aluminium foil).

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

#107

We need to focus on the second R, reuse. I have mason jars that my grandmother and then my mother used for pickling. The only waste is the rubber ring which needs to be replaced occasionally and THAT could be recycled. Many of these bottles have been used for 80+ years now. I have a few Ball jars which my GREAT grandmother used 100+ years ago. Beer bottles in Canada are reused dozens of times and are recyclable (brow…

Sure, but all the glass that gets used for reuse is for liquids , which are also all heavy to begin with. Do you have examples of successful packaging reuse for solid dry food such as Pringles? Or cereal? Or sugar? Or chocolate? (And that's before even getting into packaging of meat, fish, etc.)

Paper can be used for some of these. E.g. sugar and flour are usually sold in plain paper (not even cardboard) packaging[1] in Germany and, from a cursory check, in some other European countries. It doesn't work for everything because it's not airtight.

[1] https://www.amazon.de/S%C3%BCdzucker-Feinzucker-10er-Pack-10...

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, we take the “reuse” and repurpose parts of three R’s very seriously in Turkey. Our flower pots are usually used empty cheese containers and all the plastic bottles are reused for containment of homemade stuff, tomato paste/olives etc... We do not recycle although.

Which is not necessarily safe depending on the type of plastic (not sure how it goes in Turkey though).

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Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

#109
post #37

We need to focus on the second R, reuse. I have mason jars that my grandmother and then my mother used for pickling. The only waste is the rubber ring which needs to be replaced occasionally and THAT could be recycled. Many of these bottles have been used for 80+ years now. I have a few Ball jars which my GREAT grandmother used 100+ years ago. Beer bottles in Canada are reused dozens of times and are recyclable (brow…

> The only containers which are infinitely recyclable are aluminum and coloured glass (nearly), but that takes energy. I've heard people say that the environmental cost of producing the clean water necessary to wash bottles for reuse is also harmful. I'd really like to see a side-by-side comparison of the environmental cost of the different available "obvious" options. > We need to just force manufacturers to bear th…

Part of me finds this really appealing.

it only requires getting everyone on the planet to accept that things cost 10x what they do now.

which is a hard pill to swallow when you are living paycheck to paycheck, which is most of the world's population.

Re: Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare'

#110

Recycling mentioned on Hacker News always depresses me. The way problems with it are treated as fundamentally unfixable always strikes me as against the site's ethos, yet people love pointing them out. Recycling just gets dumped in landfill! Ok, lets ban that. But, actually, its more environmentally friendly to landfill it! Are you sure? Science doesnt really agree. But anyway, can we make recycling more efficient? N…

Hum... I do not disagree exactly, but, there is simply no rush to fix landfill. There's a rush to fix climate change, species extinctions and habitat losses, environment pollution and a huge number of problems. Landfill can easily wait for a century or two. So why take focus from the hanging problems and place into it?

> There's a rush to fix climate change, species extinctions and habitat losses, environment pollution and a huge number of problems.

> Landfill can easily wait for a century or two. So why take focus from the hanging problems and place into it?

Because the universal solution to almost all the problems you mentioned is to drastically cut consumption. It's amazing how many resources get wasted on stuff no one needs (i.e. that has to be advertised so that people buy it).

Coronavirus has proven the amount of unnecessary crap (especially in clothing) is way too high, in fact so high it's dangerous for our economies if a couple of weeks of lockdown lead to yet-unknown levels of economic collapse.

We as societies should radically rethink how we want to live if we want to live on this planet in two hundred years in peace.

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