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#92I think: 1. Multiple App Stores would be good for free speech, and for avoidance of USA cultural and legal hegemony. 2. How can this be done without loss of security for typical users? We don’t want phones to become botnets with microphones and cameras — imagine the opportunities for automatic criminal blackmail, theft planning, target acquisition, or 2FA interception. This is bad for the societies we live in even if…
>We don’t want phones to become botnets with microphones and cameras They already are. Walled gardens do nothing to prevent this.
They do a ton to prevent this. I’ve not heard of issues with botnets on IPhones or Macs
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For you a threat, for many others a feature. Lots of people buy iPhones specifically because they are restrictive, and are therefore more robust. Ask an average user which experience they prefer - sourcing software for a Windows PC, or downloading an App for an iPhone.
> Lots of people buy iPhones specifically because they are restrictive, and are therefore more robust Just have a look at a mainstream Youtube video about the latest iPhone and see when they talk about the app review (hint: never). People buy phones based on camera, screen and interface, they never heard about the walled garden or Apple's practices.
I mean why would they? It's not new and its been well known feature of the iPhone since day 1.
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#94Crazy idea: if you want a free as in speech App Store then why isn’t the request for a free as in speech mobile OS? The claim is there isn’t a company backing it - presumably from lack of market demand for it. There have been attempts but they’ve not gained steam. Even Google is now moving away from Linux as the core of android. I generally agree that we need some countervailing pressure against the monopolies of tod…
> Even Google is now moving away from Linux as the core of android.
Could not find much about this, could you link to something that provides more details on it?
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#95The podcast "Acquired" recently did an episode on Epic https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/epic-games (Season 7, Episode 3, September 1, 2020) It helped me a lot with positioning Epic and Sweeney, with his current actions, into my mental knowledge base, in the context of Doom and what was happening in the 90s and thereafter in the gaming industry. It also touches the current topic. It's worth listening to.
Thank you for introducing me to this podcast. Truly a valuable one.
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> We were really lucky that developers and users let at least the Windows store fail. This might be an unpopular opinion but: I like the comfort of the Windows Store regarding installation & updates for Win32 apps. The app is installed into its own little corner and a lot of them also come with their own contained registry hive. I don't need a thousand auto update services or an app updating itself only when I open i…
In my experience, Linux repositories are all of the upsides you mentioned (trusted, auto-updated, signed (at repo level, at least)) with none of the lock-in downsides, since you can add third party repositories (and then use them via the same workflow you're already comfortable with!).
Many of them rely of a free-of-charge labour. Would you volunteer your free time to maintain Apple Store?
Re: Tim Sweeney on Apple and Google
#97I’m surprised to find myself siding with Apple / Google / etc on this. They did the work to build and maintain a distribution platform. They should be able to define its terms of use and costs. If you don’t like it, distribute differently. If everyone uses those companies’ devices, it’s a market endorsement that the world wants the standardization and managed ecosystem of each platform - that it’s a thing of value. I…
They don't have to run infrastructure, they just have to update iOS to remove the signature check on binaries and support installing IPAs from Safari downloads, so that there is no need for their app store anymore.
As a consumer of Apple devices, I want the app store, and I only want app store software to be possible on the device. So if Apple needs to meet consumer demands, I’m an example of a consumer who wants the app store to work like it currently does, and I feel Apple’s policies of taking a cut of subscriptions and in-app purchasing is fair.
For a system where I want openness, I’ll use Librem 5 for example.
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Epic Store successfully taking games exclusive makes Sweeneys priorities clear: they are no different than Apple's or Google's. I hope Epic fighting this fight will not obscure that.
I don't think Sweeney wants the same software to be available on every app store. He wants users to have a choice of which app store to use. Effectively he wants the same deal as there is for PC gaming - eg multiple stores available that users can choose from - to be the case for mobile (and possibly consoles as well).
I'm not sure how that's a benefit for users (multiple app stores).
What he wants is the right to build his own App Store so that he can charge his own "tax" and (hopefully) become a monopolist.
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What about the freedom to choose a highly curated platform because you want that and are prepared to pay a premium for it?
What about it? You, personally, making that choice shouldn't force everyone else to pay 30% eternally to Apple.
You don’t have to pay 30% to Apple. Jail break your phone is you want or just buy one of the 1000s of other phones for. Sale