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Re: R U OK?

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Post by glial »

ericmcer wrote: post #152
parliament32 wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want this to sound like an attack but what's the issue? Heaven forbid someone feeds their pets the food they're supposed to eat instead of some hyper-processed and unregulated sawdust pellets.

Well if you assume that beef is bad and cheap beef is especially terrible for both the environment and the cattle themselves then it isn't a huge stretch to see why someone pouring 20X the amount a human would eat into 2 dogs every week could be viewed as immoral. It's like more people driving hybrid/electric cars cause gas prices to go down, in response to this other people can now buy bigger gas guzzling cars. Econ…

Economics only rewards immoral behavior if we let it. We should properly factor negative externalities into prices.

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Post by [deleted] »

smnrchrds wrote: post #137
anm89 wrote: post #119

Remember, if you are in the US at least, and someone tells you they aren't ok, and you recommend a crisis line, and they mention anything regarding suicide, they are very likely going to be extracted from their living situation by force and end up incarcerated at very high expense to themselves. If their life was going poorly before that, it sure won't be better after. edit: as another poster mentioned, the record of…

Also having your name officially recorded for this cause in a database can have negative impacts on the rest of your life, as this Canadian woman found: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/canadian-woman-refuse...

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Post by mindfulhack »

anm89 wrote: post #125
zulu-inuoe wrote: post #123

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I've been a victim of this very thing, and can certainly second this. My friend was trying to be helpful, but I lost 2 weeks of my life and felt dehumanized during and after it. I don't blame them, because it's very counter-intuitive, but TLDR - be careful when contacting any sort of government authorities, because they often have far more consequences than you're considering in the moment.

Yeah, it's a total travesty. I'm sorry to hear that you had to go through that. And we wonder why people won't talk about suicide.

I cannot believe America is like this. TIL. As a non-American, I was thinking of moving there one day. These days, the reasons to not want to (which have nothing to do with politics) are racking up.

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Post by 082349872349872 »

wfreeborn wrote: post #168
srtjstjsj wrote: post #77

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Can you explain what you mean?

"Alright" is a common greeting in the UK, similar to "How're you going".

also works in at least french, german, and spanish.

(I think the big dividing line between cultures is whether it's surprising or not to answer with full sentences how one is doing upon being asked "alright?")

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Post by dragonsky67 »

cmehdy wrote: post #144
hirundo wrote: post #113

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> figuring out how to put an increasing amount ... distance between you and your end. I disagree. Death should be held close, to give value to life: "Death is our eternal companion. It is always to our left, an arm's length behind us. Death is the only wise adviser that a warrior has. Whenever he feels that everything is going wrong and he's about to be annihilated, he can turn to his death and ask if that is so. His…

Death is always close. You can always throw yourself under a train, or a car can hit you while crossing the road. Heart attack. Robbery. Whatever it is. Keeping some distance between you and a designed act to end yourself comfortably is helpful because when you're in a state of despair you do need to take some perspective before impulsively acting. Impulses are powerful and very often not something we actually wanted…

Please dont ever suggest people end it all by throwing themselves under a car, train truck or anything else controlled by somebody. Nobody should ever have to live with the fact they were driving a vehicle that somebody used to end it all. Why distroy two lives. Pretty selfish making somebody live with the consequences of your decision.

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Post by dragonsky67 »

rzzzt wrote: post #164
silicon2401 wrote: post #84

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People often think realism sounds negative.

There is a theory that non-depressed people are the ones who go about their way with rose-tinted glasses on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depressive_realism

This may actually be true, but to what point. Choosing to ignore the shitty things that are happening in your world is a pretty good survival tactic. After all there is a pretty reasonable chance that the shitty thing won't directly impact you, giving you a chance to actually improve your situation.

Re: R U OK?

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Post by rags2riches »

asdffdsa wrote: post #131
ericmcer wrote: post #96

Something I am struggling with recently is less am I ok, but more do we as humans deserve to be ok? When I look at the freeways full of cars, streets lined with overflowing garbage cans, homeless encampments, grocery stores with row after row of cheap meat under fluorescent light. Am I supposed to feel ok? It many times feels as though we are a virus decimating our host environment. The constant flood of bad news com…

I guess the one thing that holds me back from acting more selflessly than I do is that we don't appreciate the efforts of goodwill of others, and we reward selfishness. I pay 45% of my income in taxes? The message is "pay your fair share". Pick up a piece of trash and put it in the garbage can? More litter will replace it when you walk by it the next time. Work extra hard to make sure a project is completed? "You're…

You have to find your own internal motivation. Ultimately, it does not matter who you are. Even if you think of yourself as a good person, it is not worth anything unless you let your actions define you. It is up to you to decide if you want to be that selfish person, with all the benefits you mention that come with that. Or you can decide to do what you know is right and really be the person you want to be. Think "do I really want to be the person that..." before you act.

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Post by clappski »

josuepeq wrote: post #54

The U.S. needs this day, especially this year. With the unmitigated disaster of 2020, I’m “probably not ok,” but I am not in any danger to myself or others. Quite the opposite - I’m optimistic that things are moving in the right direction. I mean, it can’t get worse: - Shutdown my consulting Business in February because I didn’t feel comfortable with being around new people constantly with a t-cell deficient immune s…

Really sorry about the people you lost, that really sucks.

Also gutted that you missed Maceo Plex and Honey Dijon - I've had plans to see Bicep and a bunch of others cancelled/moved, it's understandable why but still so frustrating! Check out Maceo if you ever get the chance again post-COVID, he's really good live.

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Post by ekianjo »

Ma8ee wrote: post #175
ekianjo wrote: post #118

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> We can get rid of cars and build more beautiful cities! We don't have cars because we love driving and waste hours in traffic or something. They have a purpose and solve problems.

Yes, but most of those problems have other, less wasteful solutions. We don’t have to live sprawled out far away from our workplaces, and we don’t each and every one need to move our own 1500 kg vehicle to get somewhere in urban areas.

> We don’t have to live sprawled out far away from our workplaces,

So I am guessing you are suggesting we all live in dormitories just next to factories/offices, and have no more than 5 square meter per person because anything more than that is absolutely unnecessary to live.

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Post by cmehdy »

dragonsky67 wrote: post #195
cmehdy wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Death is always close. You can always throw yourself under a train, or a car can hit you while crossing the road. Heart attack. Robbery. Whatever it is. Keeping some distance between you and a designed act to end yourself comfortably is helpful because when you're in a state of despair you do need to take some perspective before impulsively acting. Impulses are powerful and very often not something we actually wanted…

Please dont ever suggest people end it all by throwing themselves under a car, train truck or anything else controlled by somebody. Nobody should ever have to live with the fact they were driving a vehicle that somebody used to end it all. Why distroy two lives. Pretty selfish making somebody live with the consequences of your decision.

Everyone likes to be upset about something here!

I did not suggest it, I'm merely stating the truth. You CAN do that, therefore the point of the person I was replying to isn't the one they were trying to make, which allowed me to shift the description of that point towards what it actually is about and deserved to be addressed.

Your message is just empty posturing here - it won't prevent people who are suffering from thinking what I wrote (spoiler alert: they already did long before I wrote it), and it doesn't address their pain either.

If you want people to not throw themselves in front of traffic, reach out to them and actually embrace that they have pain on their terms - not yours.

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