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Re: Promoted Add-ons Pilot

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How are the Grammarly[1] or Honey[2] addons terrible for security? I can guess why you say they're terrible for privacy, but they both mention what data they share on the addon page. So it seems not so much that they are violating users privacy, but that you think people should be more concerned with the amount of privacy they give up. For the record, I am pro-privacy, and would never want to use addons like these th…

FWIW-- I have never used either of those extensions (or products), but at least Grammarly (based on this alone) is truly awful. I think they're still violating user privacy, here's the excerpt from the bottom of the extension page from Grammarly: > Additionally, we collect payment information if you choose to use our Premium services, and we automatically collect technical information, including log data and usage in…

> Additionally, we collect payment information if you choose to use our Premium services, and we automatically collect technical information, including log data and usage information, for legitimate business interests, such as improving our product and providing customer support. > You can bet that means they're building a credit profile of people and likely selling the information.

Huh? That seems like a bit of a leap

Re: Promoted Add-ons Pilot

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post #105
post #15

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Yes, this addon looks like repackaging and selling someone others open source work. I'm really not sorry for that author.

I'm the author. I maintain both the "I don't care about cookies" and the premium "No, thanks" extension and the filter list. All by myself, for the last 8-9 years. Please don't write stuff you didn't recheck first. While the list is a cool addition for those who can't install the extension, it really can't do much when cookie policy needs to be accepted for the website to work properly. The extension accepts policies…

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Re: Promoted Add-ons Pilot

#123
post #105
post #15

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Yes, this addon looks like repackaging and selling someone others open source work. I'm really not sorry for that author.

I'm the author. I maintain both the "I don't care about cookies" and the premium "No, thanks" extension and the filter list. All by myself, for the last 8-9 years. Please don't write stuff you didn't recheck first. While the list is a cool addition for those who can't install the extension, it really can't do much when cookie policy needs to be accepted for the website to work properly. The extension accepts policies…

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Re: Promoted Add-ons Pilot

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Not putting artificial restrictions into the browser is free.

It's really not. I work on Firefox. Just yesterday I spent some time helping a user debug an issue they had, and it turned out to be caused by them flipping a hidden pref in about:config. This is not uncommon, it takes up my time and my colleagues' time, which costs money.

We aren't talking about hidden preferences but about add-ons. And if you don't want to support people who installed add-ons you didn't verify, don't support people who installed add-ons you didn't verify.

Re: Promoted Add-ons Pilot

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It's really not. I work on Firefox. Just yesterday I spent some time helping a user debug an issue they had, and it turned out to be caused by them flipping a hidden pref in about:config. This is not uncommon, it takes up my time and my colleagues' time, which costs money.

We aren't talking about hidden preferences but about add-ons. And if you don't want to support people who installed add-ons you didn't verify, don't support people who installed add-ons you didn't verify.

It's not a huge leap to see how the same could apply to add-ons too, it frequently does even on desktop. It would be many times more likely for the new android Firefox, hence the existence of the allowlist. Not to mention that some of the restrictions aren't artificial at all.

As for support, a) we'd like to support all of our users, and b) it often takes a lot of support time until you establish that an add-on or hidden preference is responsible.

Re: Promoted Add-ons Pilot

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post #105
post #15

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Yes, this addon looks like repackaging and selling someone others open source work. I'm really not sorry for that author.

I'm the author. I maintain both the "I don't care about cookies" and the premium "No, thanks" extension and the filter list. All by myself, for the last 8-9 years. Please don't write stuff you didn't recheck first. While the list is a cool addition for those who can't install the extension, it really can't do much when cookie policy needs to be accepted for the website to work properly. The extension accepts policies…

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Re: Promoted Add-ons Pilot

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It's hardly a bribe though, is it? The allowlist exists so it can guarantee users install add-ons which work, and don't break their browser. Both reviewing and adding support for required APIs costs money.

bribe: noun Something offered to induce another to do something.

So payment for any service is a bribe

Re: Promoted Add-ons Pilot

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post #105
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, this addon looks like repackaging and selling someone others open source work. I'm really not sorry for that author.

I'm the author. I maintain both the "I don't care about cookies" and the premium "No, thanks" extension and the filter list. All by myself, for the last 8-9 years. Please don't write stuff you didn't recheck first. While the list is a cool addition for those who can't install the extension, it really can't do much when cookie policy needs to be accepted for the website to work properly. The extension accepts policies…

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Re: Promoted Add-ons Pilot

#129
post #105
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, this addon looks like repackaging and selling someone others open source work. I'm really not sorry for that author.

I'm the author. I maintain both the "I don't care about cookies" and the premium "No, thanks" extension and the filter list. All by myself, for the last 8-9 years. Please don't write stuff you didn't recheck first. While the list is a cool addition for those who can't install the extension, it really can't do much when cookie policy needs to be accepted for the website to work properly. The extension accepts policies…

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Re: Promoted Add-ons Pilot

#130

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What's so bad about reminding people to "Make sure you trust it before installing"?

The part where there is only one party who can make the scary warning go away and doing so requires paying them.

you ignored my argument that the warning is valid, not scary.
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