Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getting Worse

Post by ajuc » Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 3:07 PM UTC

badestrand wrote: post #157

christiansakai wrote: post #118

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I was surprised that ESGV (Vanguard Index for responsible environmental friendly investing) does not include nuclear power there. I wonder what's the stigma bout nuclear?

> I wonder what's the stigma bout nuclear? I am sure you know the answer but because you ask for it: Radioactivity is nasty. Example Germany: When I grew up my parents couldn't pick mushrooms and I couldn't play in a sandbox because a few thousand kilometers away there was a reactor incident and the wind blew it over. Today people living near a power plant receive free jodium tablets in case there will be an accident…

Post by RockIslandLine » Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 3:09 PM UTC

snarf21 wrote: post #132

spodek wrote: post #63

The Hacker News and geek community is weird. Ask them about reaching Mars or fusion and they say it's inevitable. They're unqualified good results. Suggest we have fewer children for a few generations and consume less and it's absolutely impossible, against human nature. The One Child policy proves it. We idolize people who change the world as entrepreneurs but say one person can't make a difference in changing cultu…

You aren't wrong but to me you are focusing on the wrong things. As you say, the west is already dropping the birth rate and being more and more focused on sustainability, etc. Eventually, it will get there. Change takes time. The big problem is the 3rd world. People there don't a have a choice. They don't want their family to starve. Women are largely forced into a reproduction role only. But we know that the way to…

Post by hdjdbtbgwjsn » Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 3:11 PM UTC

aww_dang wrote: post #147

hdjdbtbgwjsn wrote: post #72

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You should speak to some more Geologists then. We really don't understand the systems of our planet and we are currently sticking a big spanner into them. Many of us are more concerned than we can publish - precisely because we don't want to scaremonger. Will the Earth definitely turn into an out of control hothouse with a Venus - like climate? Very probably not there are many differences between Earth and Venus. Can…

"We really don't understand the systems of our planet and we are currently sticking a big spanner into them." There's a presumption that man is somehow an unnatural creature divorced from nature here. If only we had multiple Earths to experiment with. One without humans as a control, another with humans as we are now and a third with humanity following whatever dictates the warmist technocrats prescribe. Hypothetical…

Post by v77 » Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 3:13 PM UTC

macspoofing wrote: post #56

One of the issues of plunging headlong into solar and wind (and bio-fuels) is that those sources require huge land-areas around mining of rare metals, deployment, and finally waste. As our global population and energy needs grow, this problem gets bigger and bigger and therefore place stress on existing, and already stressed, ecosystems. On the other end, nuclear is energy dense, and requires tiny amount of land for…

Post by v77 » Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 3:16 PM UTC

kortex wrote: post #80

x87678r wrote: post #57

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There were always problems. Would you rather be living through the World Wars? Or even Vietnam/Korean wars. Slavery. Nuclear Cold war. Acid Rain. Crippling economy and crime in the 70s. 80s crack crime epidemic. Covid sucks but otherwise things are pretty good right now.

This is dismissive in the form of "Other people suffered, why are you complaining?" Nuclear war is still possible. Acid rain is still bleaching forests and marshes near me. Our economy is kinda hosed at the moment. Endless conflict in the Middle East/SW Asia. Uiyghurs are enslaved. And of course resource depletion and climate change. It's not sunshine and lolipops.