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Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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PHP NYC - http://salaryshare.me/f2864ef79da8296c035b2906c0bb4846

Nice to see that I'm about where I expect to be.

I'm in the middle, thought I'd be more at the bottom. Was happy about that for a second until I realized that being at the bottom would actually be a good thing.

Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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post #84

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Shouldn't that be: 1. $10 1. $10 3 . $8 The way I see it, the person with $8 is ranked third, not second. Think of what would happen if you extended it. If you had 99 people earning $10 and 1 earning $8, it would be misleading to rank that bottom individual 2nd.

You are absolutely right, that was more what I was thinking about when I wrote that. I just edited it to match with your proposal.

For what it's worth, this is quite easy to compute in a way that works with any number of ties, and doesn't require computing the whole list in order. Your rank is the number of people above you plus one.

Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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But the college asks for $20K every year, so that could be considered a negative salary.

Negative salary is an oxymoron. How can you consider debt a form of compensation?

Tuition is a little special, since it's essentially money I'm paying for the privilege of working on something I'm not being paid for.

Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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Without context, salary is meaningless. You should ask for title and years experience in the role. Without that a comparison is tough.

This. And also location. Without location this is useless. I can't possibly compare my Slovenian salary to you yankees :)

So create a context. Suppose you're a junior developer in Slovenia and want to know how much your peers are earning. Create a pool named something like 'Slovenia junior dev position', enter your annual sallary and post the link to the pool here.

The only thing that kind of bugs me with this app is that the amounts have to be expressed in USD, so i have to recalculate them back to my own country's currency when viewing the results, otherwise, nice app :).

Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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But the college asks for $20K every year, so that could be considered a negative salary.

OK, then after taxes, rent, food, utilities, entertainment, savings, and everything else, my salary is also $0. Salary is what your employer pays you, not what you don't spend out of that.

And if you consider the university to be your employer...

But people, this was not meant entirely seriously.

Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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post #78

This looks great. Ideas for the future... - improve formatting of the list (right justify numbers for example) - slider to allow us to cut off low and high outliers when looking at averages/charts/etc - display mean/mode/median/stdev [1] (which take into account above filtering) - chart results - ability to add a timeout for entries (only accept new salaries for X days before locking) - countdown timer on entry page…

Another excellent idea: make it a regression:

Wage = a + byears experience + ctitle + dlanguage coded + ...

[a b c d ...] = ([array.T array]^(-1)array.T wage

thus people can figure out for themselves where they should be! :-)

Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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post #77

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As I understand it it's a salary pool for HN users. I'm an HN user, and I put in my salary. Seems pretty straightforward to me. I'm not really expecting that anyone is seriously going to try to use the average salary of HN users for negotiation purposes. But even assuming they were, it appears there are at least a few others who are in my boat. That's relevant information, yes?

You are unemployed; therefore you have no salary. This is somewhat akin to placing "yes, please" under the "sex" column of a questionaire.

I'm not sure I understand— how does the fact that I'm unemployed, and therefore have no salary, negate the fact that I have no salary? Are you trying to distinguish between "no salary" and "$0 salary"? They feel pretty equivalent to me.

Again, this is an informal salary pool for HN users. I'm an HN user, and my yearly income, taking into consideration my no stock options, no bonuses, no salary, and no other non-salary compensation, is $0.

In general, do you really think the existence of unemployed hackers who earn $0 yearly is completely irrelevant to anyone who would have an interest in how much hackers are making?

Re: Show HN: Let's end the Programmer Salary Taboo

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post #11

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Without context, salary is meaningless. You should ask for title and years experience in the role. Without that a comparison is tough.

I work for a company with well over 100,000 employees, but if I gave my salary, title, and years experience (and as someone else noted, especially if I added my location), I wouldn't be anonymous. To my employer, at least. It would be trivial for them to narrow down the information to being provided by a very small number of people - if not the exact person. I don't see this flying, where I work though. Even among th…

This is why salary pools are secret. Don't share the link with your boss (or sycophantic cow-orkers) and you should be fine.
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