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Re: R U OK?

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Post by birksherty »

No. I don't think I am depressed. I just don't want life. I was given a life without my consent, atleast give me option to exit without pain. People have children for selfish reasons, their life has no meaning, bored, what will they do in life, so have children, life becomes less painful. Now those children will have to do the same, it's a cycle. There is no meaning to be honest. People talks nice things but ultimately ignores that there are lot of suffering in whole world because people are seilfish and wants to have baby. They never think that those babies don't remain baby & then thay suffer.

Of course there are some good times, but for most days there are lots of stress. Every morning I have to work everyday in a job I don't like, even the commute is stress. Then I will become old, have some desease. Why do I need this? Just to live and to wait till the day I die. What if I don't want any of this, bring the day closer, so I don't have to do this longer. Don't worry I don't have the courage to do the thing. I am just ranting. The elites will not let me have the easy way out option untill I serve all I can and get old. They are priviledged and they decide all.

Re: R U OK?

#62

Post by alexitorg »

throwaway_ruok wrote: post #42

Not okay. It's a worrying time being a Chinese person. On the one hand, I don't support CCP (hence the throw away); I find the dictatorship very troubling. Furthermore, the growing patriotism and nationalism makes me anxious about the next generation of Chinese. On the other hand, many people outside tend to treat Chinese people and CCP as a whole, and denounce and dismiss everything we do. More and more people sugge…

I have a few Chinese colleagues and a couple more Australian colleagues of Chinese background. I have been a little worried about how the first group are handling the strain lately. I hope they are OK. My feeling is anyone with an Australian accent is a local, anyone who I can communicate with easily can be a friend and anyone who I can communicate with can be a valued colleague.

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Post by eeh »

birksherty wrote: post #61

No. I don't think I am depressed. I just don't want life. I was given a life without my consent, atleast give me option to exit without pain. People have children for selfish reasons, their life has no meaning, bored, what will they do in life, so have children, life becomes less painful. Now those children will have to do the same, it's a cycle. There is no meaning to be honest. People talks nice things but ultimate…

> No. I don't think I am depressed. I just don't want life.

I'm sorry to hear you're going through this. In case you haven't tried professional support, it might help. In my experience they're pretty good at finding the cause of issues, which is a step towards improving it.

Re: R U OK?

#64

Post by slx26 »

telaelit wrote: post #21

I wish this would be a completely normal thing to do. I think if we were more genuinely compassionate and cared more about each other’s lives then this world would be a better place.

Sadly, I think the problem is not even a lack of compassion, but the fact that many people don't have anyone they trust, and there's a lack of shared spaces where they could belong and eventually connect with others that could help them. Everyone needs connection (well, let's leave schizoids aside for today), and connection requires people being together in the first place. And only then starts the hard part, as a lot of people is pretty particular about connection, trust and openess towards others, but where do we expect to go if we are already failing at getting people together in the first place.

While I'm happy about visibilizing mental health problems, I feel pretty similarly to many other issues that we try to visibilize: that's only step zero, and no one seems to bother to talk about step one afterwards. While it's possible to help specific individuals, we are not getting closer to the root of the structural problems impairing our societies.

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Post by eeh »

josuepeq wrote: post #54

The U.S. needs this day, especially this year. With the unmitigated disaster of 2020, I’m “probably not ok,” but I am not in any danger to myself or others. Quite the opposite - I’m optimistic that things are moving in the right direction. I mean, it can’t get worse: - Shutdown my consulting Business in February because I didn’t feel comfortable with being around new people constantly with a t-cell deficient immune s…

That's messed up. Sorry you've had to go through that.

Re: R U OK?

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Post by josuepeq »

throwaway_ruok wrote: post #42

Not okay. It's a worrying time being a Chinese person. On the one hand, I don't support CCP (hence the throw away); I find the dictatorship very troubling. Furthermore, the growing patriotism and nationalism makes me anxious about the next generation of Chinese. On the other hand, many people outside tend to treat Chinese people and CCP as a whole, and denounce and dismiss everything we do. More and more people sugge…

I kind of think there’s a lack of understanding amongst Americans regarding the Chinese people.

Ever since American CEOs decided to sell out the American worker with decades of offshoring manufacturing to China and our transition to a service economy, It’s been easy to channel the resentment away from the Americans responsible, and place blame on China. If China does things we don’t like, well, American Greed legitimized the relationship with the West in the first place.

None of that is the fault of the Chinese people; but our powers that be seemed to place the blame and hatred there. The fact is we’ve been pushed into a constant cycle of deteriorating civil decorum and mutual respect for each other. The coronavirus pandemic only exacerbates things.

I think if anything could help the bridge the divide, it would be to convince Americans that China is not full of people who lack the notion to think for themselves, and that people are not uniformly aligned on all issues. Individualism of thought is not a unique characteristic of the West.

Re: R U OK?

#67

Post by wruza »

birksherty wrote: post #61

No. I don't think I am depressed. I just don't want life. I was given a life without my consent, atleast give me option to exit without pain. People have children for selfish reasons, their life has no meaning, bored, what will they do in life, so have children, life becomes less painful. Now those children will have to do the same, it's a cycle. There is no meaning to be honest. People talks nice things but ultimate…

I felt that way for a long time and then started to not care, because it is... boring? These points remain true, life is still pointless, but not giving a fuck is a thing in itself. "Fuck that". Not a key to survival, not a happy state, not even worth gaining, just a distinct category you may find yourself in someday.

Re: R U OK?

#68

Post by eeh »

person_of_color wrote: post #3

No. Because tech blogs and forums like HN/Blind constantly make me feel I'm getting underpaid.

It sucks to feel that way. It might not be as bad as you think it is: I expect those earning more will more eager to note what they are.

Re: R U OK?

#69

Post by hirundo »

birksherty wrote: post #61

No. I don't think I am depressed. I just don't want life. I was given a life without my consent, atleast give me option to exit without pain. People have children for selfish reasons, their life has no meaning, bored, what will they do in life, so have children, life becomes less painful. Now those children will have to do the same, it's a cycle. There is no meaning to be honest. People talks nice things but ultimate…

There are several options to exit without pain. I found one on the internet, and have prepared it. It was inexpensive and the components are not particularly suspicious. It's ready to go when I am.

Somehow that makes me appreciate life more. Being able to leave at will makes staying sweeter. I can let go of much of the stress by knowing that it is voluntary and temporary, which lets me focus on the simple pleasures. Of which there are many.

I'm not ready to go, partly because I am ready to go.

Re: R U OK?

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Post by rags2riches »

wruza wrote: post #67
birksherty wrote: post #61

No. I don't think I am depressed. I just don't want life. I was given a life without my consent, atleast give me option to exit without pain. People have children for selfish reasons, their life has no meaning, bored, what will they do in life, so have children, life becomes less painful. Now those children will have to do the same, it's a cycle. There is no meaning to be honest. People talks nice things but ultimate…

I felt that way for a long time and then started to not care, because it is... boring? These points remain true, life is still pointless, but not giving a fuck is a thing in itself. "Fuck that". Not a key to survival, not a happy state, not even worth gaining, just a distinct category you may find yourself in someday.

The idea that life is ultimately without meaning is strange to me. It often comes together with an argument presupposing that only that wich is eternal can have meaning. Which is just begging the question. It also makes the concept of meaning kinda... pointless?

If you instead start from the fact that life is limited and from there get the idea that only that which happens to the living can have any meaning, you end up some other place entirely.

But both views are just circular from what you put in the concept of meaning I guess.

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