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Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getting Worse

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Re: Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getting Worse

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Not too long before it's man versus man rather than man versus nature.

Once the animals are gone, we won't last much longer. It is extremely naive to think we can engineer ourselves a new biome that can sustain anything even close to what we have now.

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Really sucks being young 20s. Between climate and the looming covid recession, is there even a point to planning for the future? Seems like the world will be trashed before I'm anywhere close to retirement anyway, almost like I might as well enjoy my money while I can do things with it.

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When the effects of global warming and extinction finally will hit us hard, people will die of in billions and life will begin to come back.

Of course a lot of species will be extinct forever, but so is the natural cycle of life. Almost all species that ever existed has already gone extinct and it's foolish to think that we won't have the same destiny, especially how we're treating our food chain.

Re: Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getting Worse

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Really sucks being young 20s. Between climate and the looming covid recession, is there even a point to planning for the future? Seems like the world will be trashed before I'm anywhere close to retirement anyway, almost like I might as well enjoy my money while I can do things with it.

If there is something you should do as a young person who thinks the future is bleak is to invest. Invest in stuff that will be worth a lot when the shit hits the fan.

Long before the economic system will collapse you will have a lot chances to buy properties make money from stocks and build to prepare for a potential collapse.

If you invest now and prepare for a dystopian future you will be well prepared when and if it arrives. If you waste your money on goods and experiences you will instead face the same destiny as so many others.

Re: Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getting Worse

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When the effects of global warming and extinction finally will hit us hard, people will die of in billions and life will begin to come back. Of course a lot of species will be extinct forever, but so is the natural cycle of life. Almost all species that ever existed has already gone extinct and it's foolish to think that we won't have the same destiny, especially how we're treating our food chain.

Assuming some negative feedback mechanism kicks in. There is a chance a positive feedback occurs, global warming spirals and Earth becomes uninhabitable. See Venus for an example.

Re: Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getting Worse

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So much was removed -- The movie is clearly based on the book, but only a quarter of the books themes end up in the movie. Isidore. Religion vs TV. Shared experiences. The movie is cut down, probably so it didn't turn a Novella into a trilogy. Dial 800, the desire to watch TV, no matter what's on.

It's an interesting case of literature-movie adaptation. The film is one of my favorites, but mostly for the atmosphere and cinematography, not the story itself. Yet, after recently re-reading Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? I came away thinking that the movie could have been so much better. They left a lot of the interesting details and Phillip K. Dick weirdness out.

The best works of art leave space between the ideas, words and images. Blade Runner is a bit more like a poem than a novel and that's why it works so well and why it was rejected so soundly at the time of release.

Sometime it takes a while to grasp the significance of a poem.

Re: Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getting Worse

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I guess it was alluded to in the article but my main concern is the amount of fertilizers, herbicides, and pesticides we use. As we clear more land for Ag we are of course limiting habitat for animals but also zapping them constantly with these chemicals.

Fertilizers get into water and decimate the life in there. Herbicides coupled with pesticides decimate insect ecosystems. The development of land gives larger animals nowhere to go.

I get why we farm like we do - abundant food for everyone. So much so that we waste so much. I just wish there was some way to develop effective farming that didn’t do all this. But it feels like a catch-22.

Re: Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getting Worse

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When the effects of global warming and extinction finally will hit us hard, people will die of in billions and life will begin to come back. Of course a lot of species will be extinct forever, but so is the natural cycle of life. Almost all species that ever existed has already gone extinct and it's foolish to think that we won't have the same destiny, especially how we're treating our food chain.

Assuming some negative feedback mechanism kicks in. There is a chance a positive feedback occurs, global warming spirals and Earth becomes uninhabitable. See Venus for an example.

Sure, but getting rid of life seems to be quite hard and for it to happen it must be some extraordinary event like the surface getting as hot as the surface of venus.

People still believe there can be life on venus in it's clouds, most likely bacteria or something like it but it's not impossible that life will find a way.

There has been extinction events where the surface of earth pretty much became uninhabitable, but bacteria lives in the earth and underground and life spirals back as soon as the surface or oceans are habitable again.

Re: Animal Populations Fell by 68% in 50 Years and It’s Getting Worse

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Really sucks being young 20s. Between climate and the looming covid recession, is there even a point to planning for the future? Seems like the world will be trashed before I'm anywhere close to retirement anyway, almost like I might as well enjoy my money while I can do things with it.

If there is something you should do as a young person who thinks the future is bleak is to invest. Invest in stuff that will be worth a lot when the shit hits the fan. Long before the economic system will collapse you will have a lot chances to buy properties make money from stocks and build to prepare for a potential collapse. If you invest now and prepare for a dystopian future you will be well prepared when and if…

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