Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

Post by MilaM » Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 9:38 AM UTC

njhaveri wrote: post #70

ValentineC wrote: post #56

Thanks for releasing this. I've been looking for a Mailplane alternative for a while, ever since Gmail started becoming a resource hog when they forced everyone onto their new interface. Is there a chance you could recompile this to support 10.14? I'll most likely not be upgrading from Mojave for the foreseeable future, until my 2013 MacBook Pro stops working and I'm forced to get something new.

Sadly, no. Mimestream already uses SwiftUI for parts of the UI, and SwiftUI requires Catalina. I plan to release an iOS/iPadOS version in the future, so Mimestream will be investing even more heavily into SwiftUI. At some point later this year, Big Sur will become a requirement, too. I sympathize with those that remain on Mojave, especially those who need to run 32-bit apps, but as a 1-man project, it seemed like a n…

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 10:09 AM UTC

njhaveri wrote: post #110

rShergold wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is really interesting work. Have you paid the $15,000 for a security audit Google requires now for accessing the Gmail API. https://support.google.com/cloud/answer/9110914?hl=en If so how was your experience going though the audit process?

I had to go through a Google security review process, which took surprisingly long to get through (probably a good thing!). However, the $15k+ 3rd party audit is only necessary if you are running servers that have a copy of client data. Mimestream only caches email data on your Mac, so I didn't have to pay this fee.

Post by nailer » Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 10:13 AM UTC

ymolodtsov wrote: post #190

dugmartin wrote: post #108

Interesting to see the Gmail API being used for a general purpose email client when Google has a very visible note on the overview page that says: > Note: The Gmail API should not be used to replace IMAP for full-fledged email client access. Instead, see IMAP and SMTP. I'd be a little worried they will disable API access for the client due to this. https://developers.google.com/gmail/api/guides

There are more than enough email clients that only support Gmail. It's OK.

Post by pjmlp » Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 10:16 AM UTC

njhaveri wrote: post #2

Hi HN! In the past, I spent over 7 years working on Apple Mail, and today I am really excited to share a new email client I'm building: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail. Mimestream is written in Swift, and uses AppKit+SwiftUI for a clean, stock appearance. It's designed to be fast, lightweight, and use a minimal amount of disk space. Mimestream's advantages over using the Gmail web interface includes…

Post by pjmlp » Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 10:21 AM UTC

old-gregg wrote: post #163

jkarneges wrote: post #3

Nice to see a native app and not something Electron-based. I wonder about native app viability these days though. Years ago I used native email apps like Outlook, KMail, and Thunderbird, but lately I just use the websites made by the service providers (Fastmail for personal, Gmail for work). As an open standards person I find my behavior kind of depressing, but the websites just tend to work better.

First thing I did when I clicked on comments is Cmd+F for "Electron". I was so relieved to find your comment. Electron apps are fine, but you have to pay me to use them :-)