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Re: R U OK?

#31

Good stuff. Even though a lot of people just don't want to talk to anyone when they're depressed, it doesn't hurt to remind them that there are always people willing to listen.

In my experience, the people helping you out are the ones that went through a similar thing themselves.

They are also the ones that can give you the most emotional support. Because you will see that you are not the only one, which already helps a lot.

Re: R U OK?

#32
post #27

Like so many other products, services and initiatives, this website would greatly benefit from a prominently placed, buzzword-free, ELI5 explanation of what it actually does. Finally I found this in one of the subpages that explains some of it: > Got a feeling that someone you know or care about it isn’t behaving as they normally would? Perhaps they seem out of sorts? More agitated or withdrawn? Or they’re just not t…

It's probably more easily understood in Australia where there's press and some corporate efforts to publicise it. Gives people an excuse to check in on friends who either need support or just want to vent to someone who understands.

The founder was prompted by the suicide of his father and then his own mental health battles.

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#33

No. Because tech blogs and forums like HN/Blind constantly make me feel I'm getting underpaid.

If you're living in Europe then that's something that you just need to accept, the pay is nowhere near anywhere the pay in the US, I think in my country it caps at something like 60k$ per year and that's if you're really good at what you're doing.

While this is true, you also need to be aware of the pay ranges available in your country. A few years ago I felt underpaid, people younger than me were earning more, self-employed people that took two weeks to come up with a screen with some text and a button that didn't work showed up to the office in a Maserati, things like that.

My then-employer did compensate though; I got a double pay raise because of performance, and another raise on top (for a lot of people in the company) because they realized they were behind on market rates.

But now I feel like I'm at the top end; there will be some growth but nothing dramatic. To gain more, I need to either shift to a managerial role (and I suspect that if I stick with this job I'll slowly grow into that while the company grows), work for more desperate companies (but that'll increase my commute), US startups with bases in my country (but that'll involve US working culture and timezones), or go self-employed.

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#34

Single dad - with two boys who delight and terrorise in equal measure. Working in an industry in constant flux, trying to make the right moves and play to my skills. Knowing all along that I am not the best at what I do by a long mile. I've had two years that have often felt horrendous, and that's putting it lightly. I am approaching 40, and have taken a turn for the worse in terms of lock down weight... Weirdly coro…

Also single dad with 2 young kids in the UK. Got divorced last year, so this year has been a challenge for the same reasons you mentioned! Grateful to have work and spend lots of time with the kids although they are back at school now. I'm 44 so my skills are even more out of date!

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#35
Digression that might be interesting for the HN crowd: The healthcheck for Apache ZooKeeper is simply sending it `ruok` and receiving `imok` if it's healthy:

    $ echo ruok | nc 127.0.0.1 5111
    imok

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#36

No, I'm not, but I'm working on it and I will be. It's been interesting today, seeing people at work walking around together, using work-sponsored coffee vouchers specifically to have a coffee with a colleague today, my face clearly says 'I am not okay', yet only two people have spoken to me at all today, some have clearly avoided me.

If you can, be brave and try and talk to people. Even a chance encounter at work, in a cafe, or in the park can make you feel good. I've recently discovered the more you express kindness and empathy or even a basic interaction with others it makes you feel good. It may seem obvious to some, it's quite selfish in a way, but hopefully a win-win.

Good luck with your journey.

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#37
I think any time is fine to ask "Are you OK?" In Chinese, 你好嗎?is as common as hello.

The reply indicates the level of trust they have in you.

If they say "Yes, of course!" then there's nothing to worry out. "Fine" means they're not fine, but they don't trust you enough to tell you why. If they actually tell you what's really on their heart, you now know that this person thinks of you as a trustworthy friend!

Re: R U OK?

#38

No. Because tech blogs and forums like HN/Blind constantly make me feel I'm getting underpaid.

If it's any consolation, I'm from Northern California and moved to Europe.

After a few years my wife and I thought "let's go back to California" so I could try a startup. After a year we went back to the EU because ultimately we realized there was no way we wanted to have a family in America.

In the EU, even people who don't work in tech can have real vacations (most people in the US can't, really) and access healthcare to a reasonable standard.

During recent elections, I didn't go to bed fearing that the country wouldn't be a democracy in the morning (helps we're not in Poland or Hungary)

And frankly, I like that when I chat with the person behind the counter at the chip shop I don't have to be quite so embarrassed at my riches compared to them. In the states I felt awkward as hell basically saying "yeah we're heading to (some exotic locale) for a few weeks, got any travel coming up?" to people who had no PTO and nowhere near the income needed to do similar and, most worryingly, little prospect of change (class mobility in the US is lower than Europe). I'm not saying that inequality isn't a problem in Europe but it rots your psyche just a bit less here.

Also, if the devs are cheap and the social safety net strong, it's a lot less risky to start your own company.

Re: R U OK?

#40
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know the feeling.. found out recently that someone in my team is on a good 80k more than me!

No one is going to pay you more unless they think you're valuable and you're departure is a credible possibility. I know it's a lot of work, but the best strategy is to interview for jobs consistently and regularly, regardless of whether you are happy with your current job. Shop around your offers, get companies to fight over you. Use all the leverage you have. You don't get more money without demanding it. Power and…

Amen to this.

Paradoxically, the BEST time to job hunt and negotiate is when you're in a job you really like.

This sucks, of course, for all sorts of reasons, but it's amazing how much "Actually I really like my current job, so you'd need to pay (some big number) to get me to move" will sway people more than "well I think market rate is about X"

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