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Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by SpelingBeeChamp »

njhaveri wrote: post #46
wkirby wrote: post #42

Looks great. Missing 4 Gmail features that I dearly miss from the web UI: - Snooze - Scheduled Send - Undo send - Missing attachment warnings ("you said see attached but have no attachments, did you mean to attach something?")

Undo Send is definitely planned! The missing attachment warning is a great idea, I just added this to the backlog. Unfortunately, Gmail API support is lacking for Snooze: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/109952618 , but I will eventually add the ability to do a Mimestream-local snooze (which makes more sense once there is an iOS companion app) Same for Scheduled Send, see https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/…

Since you're working on an iOS companion app, this seems like an appropriate time to mention the primary obstacle that has kept me off of the Gmail iOS app: it doesn't support links in email signatures.

I still find that hard to believe, and it's a deal breaker. IIRC, the Gmail app doesn't support signature formatting at all. Please do.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by SpelingBeeChamp »

jonny383 wrote: post #169

Looks fantastic. I strongly urge you to reconsider building out an application that serves only Google though!

"Serves only Google" when talking about email is not as limiting as your language suggests.

As of October 2018, Gmail had 1.5 billion users.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by planb »

njhaveri wrote: post #2

Hi HN! In the past, I spent over 7 years working on Apple Mail, and today I am really excited to share a new email client I'm building: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail. Mimestream is written in Swift, and uses AppKit+SwiftUI for a clean, stock appearance. It's designed to be fast, lightweight, and use a minimal amount of disk space. Mimestream's advantages over using the Gmail web interface includes…

Are you planning to support the "postpone" feature? This is the one thing that is missing for me when using gmail in Apple Mail.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by SpelingBeeChamp »

njhaveri wrote: post #134
acherion wrote: post #131

Great work! I look forward to using this. Not sure if this has been mentioned in the comments yet (I came across this post 100+ comments later), but one thing I miss terribly after leaving AirMail was the ability to write markdown in email. I absolutely loved the split-pane window when writing an email, and see it update in real-time as I write my markdown'ed email. I am on the web-client for Gmail for now, and altho…

Markdown support has been a major theme from the feedback I've gotten today by email and here. In addition, I find myself personally wanting it all the time, at least so I can insert code blocks. I definitely plan to add this in the not-too-distant future!

Keep in mind your audience here. I don't want to discourage you from adding markdown support, but I suspect that the overwhelming majority of your users won't know what markdown is, let alone actively want it.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by njhaveri »

leggenda47 wrote: post #199

Hello! I downloaded and opened the app and it looks great! I saw I had 5k+ social and promotion messages so I right clicked and marked all as read. That however crashed the app and even if I open it again it crashes again.

Oh no! A few people reported this crash today, I'll be fixing it hopefully tomorrow!

You can reset your cache by running these this in Terminal: rm ~/Library/Containers/com.mimestream.Mimestream/Data/Library/Application\ Support/Mimestream/Mimestream*

rm -rf ~/Library/Containers/com.mimestream.Mimestream/Data/Library/Application\ Support/Mimestream/Attachments

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by trogdor »

josteink wrote: post #200
njhaveri wrote: post #2

Hi HN! In the past, I spent over 7 years working on Apple Mail, and today I am really excited to share a new email client I'm building: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail. Mimestream is written in Swift, and uses AppKit+SwiftUI for a clean, stock appearance. It's designed to be fast, lightweight, and use a minimal amount of disk space. Mimestream's advantages over using the Gmail web interface includes…

> Mimestream differs from other email clients because it uses the Gmail API rather than IMAP Technically speaking that make Mimestream not an email-client, but only a Gmail-client. It's only an email-client if it works with general email-providers, which this one clearly doesn't.

I think that's more than just a technical point. If someone sold me an email client that only supported one provider, I'd feel swindled.

I would encourage them to reconsider their "email client" language. It's asking for a headache.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by kochthesecond »

acherion wrote: post #131

Great work! I look forward to using this. Not sure if this has been mentioned in the comments yet (I came across this post 100+ comments later), but one thing I miss terribly after leaving AirMail was the ability to write markdown in email. I absolutely loved the split-pane window when writing an email, and see it update in real-time as I write my markdown'ed email. I am on the web-client for Gmail for now, and altho…

Why did you stop using Airmail?

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by kalleboo »

dvtrn wrote: post #63
robenkleene wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a great point: "There are no intermediary servers with access to your account or copies of your messages." A number of popular email clients use intermediary servers and that's a complete deal breaker for me. I'd argue that should be a deal breaker for almost anyone. I'm not a security expert, but as far as I can tell, for most people the single biggest security vulnerability is an attacker gaining access to…

I never quite understood what the value add was for email-client developers to use intermediary servers. Is it to gather usage telemetry or something else?

On iOS (and some of the more aggressively power-saving OEM Android builds), it's the only way to implement push notifications
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