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I don't know if this is as true as you think. First of all, I've been laughed out of a lot of rooms for pitching this idea. Hundreds, by now. Further, although many VC's are indeed herd animals as you seem to suggest, there are a few bold ones who genuinely hunt for new and radical ideas and would be willing to back a first-time founder - if you're willing to do the work.
Thanks for the response Eric. My point is about the audacity of the idea. Specifically, to open a new financial market place of the magnitude it would take to be viable, one would need - 1. significant experience in the space to understand the nuances, what's working, what's broken, etc. 2. Sizable investments and talent for operations (scale, uptime, compliance, etc.), 3. A well thought through G2M strategy (includi…
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#432Congrats to Eric on this. The thing missing from this article is: What does this actually mean? When will companies start listing? Who will start listing? How do companies list? What are you offering? etc.
Yes, interesting article. Though, if this were a software announcement I'd label it vaporware .
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#433Congratulations. "We shape our buildings; thereafter they shape us." -- Winston Churchill Though I barely understand such things, I'm very excited by your LTSE and Katsuyama's Investors Exchange (IEX). Listening to your interviews about LTSE, my takeaway is that your goal is to allow companies to be judged on their own merits, instead of someone else's. So one side effect may be to help migrate private equity funded…
Thanks for the kind words
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Sure. Here's Citadel's profile from FINRA: https://files.brokercheck.finra.org/firm/firm_116797.pdf Scroll down to page 9, you'll see they are a member of The Long-Term Stock Exchange
Citadel securities are famous for their long-term investment horizons. 100 milliseconds is practically an eternity
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#435The entire trading industry is formed around the public markets. Large financial firms, both in accounting and investing depend on revenue from the quarterly reporting. I'd expect a tremendous amount of resistance to moving companies to LTSE. Do you expect that any firms will transfer? Or do you expect a new ecosystem to develop side by side, over time?
So, as things stand, the status quo is strongly reinforced, and being extremely toxic is strikingly rewarded. In the event that this never changes, there's not a lot of place for a Long-Term Stock Exchange or anything like it. That holds even while the status quo, being 'extractive', begins to do serious damage to all the stuff we like and care about. So long as the rules favor toxicity and are written by those who stand to gain by it, this proposal is a joke.
But we are also postulating that there is reason to believe such 'extractive' behavior has consequences: call 'em externalities. There's plenty of history on how business can continue that way, even to the point of open warfare, murder of strikers etc. so we know there's motivation to cling to 'extractive'. But history also tells us there's a limit, and societies can turn against this sort of thing in whatever form it shows itself.
(side note: I spent part of yesterday trying to help Amazon not be toxic. I got an LED light being sold as a light therapy tool, $40 or so price but might only be a few bucks worth of LEDs, and I did not order it. Someone's using my name and address, with their own email and credit card, so they can review things as me. It was very tough to get the situation understood by Amazon. Yet, the product reviews had already been frozen for suspicion of fraudulent reviewing, and the product was fulfilled by Amazon and was literally #1 in its category. This is a form of toxicity that leads to Amazon's brand being garbage because you can't trust a thing they say.)
In the event that government changes its approach and begins to deal more harshly with the abuses of big business, which is far from unthinkable, this Long-Term Stock Exchange and seeking to comply with it might be a useful form of virtue signaling by companies that are trying to avoid being targeted as bad actors. And the requirements of the LTSE could track the legal requirements by government as they develop, making the exchange a 'safe haven' and public show of good faith.
The contrast with what you have to do to please current stock exchanges and those who follow them, could not be more striking. It's become very obvious that shows of BAD faith (by certain political standards) are required by the existing investor audience, which seems correct in believing that right now companies are held to no consequence other than beating other companies in making money by any means, full stop.
If that IS stopped, the meta-market (market of money holders seeking markets) would be hot to find a place to invest that was more safe from unwanted consequence.
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#437where are the VCs that share this vision? when I tried to raise capital on a long term vision for our hardware startup I got laughed at.
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I'll give a shareholder's perspective. Management, when left unchecked, frequently engages in in wasteful empire building and prestige projects. The most apparent manifestation of this is in mergers and acquisitions. Decades of evidence shows that the median merger destroys shareholder value for the acquiring company. Imposing strong controls on corporate management is one of the most important thing that shareholder…
Bezos was an investment banker. Before he had the track record of long term development (only born from long term efforts) he knew how to speak Wall Street and had a track record on Wall Street. Most CEO’s will never be capitalized like him for long term empire building so it’s hard to say there couldn’t be more Amazon sized successes out there if Capital was more accessible for longer term visions.
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Thanks for the kind words
Did you switch from r/wallstreetbets to selling gold miners their shovels? A very successful approach.
The "shovel guy": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Brannan
> Brannan's wife divorced him and he was forced to liquidate much of his real estate to pay her one-half of their assets. He died poor and in relative obscurity
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Not a strong conviction from me but I can see a case for liquidity when you can sell quickly.
I'm not talking about the times it take for selling as much as the absence of delay between buying and selling.
If you had to hold a stock for a long amount of time before selling it, you would find it very hard to buy or sell stock.